Comment author: conchis 09 June 2009 11:18:07AM *  0 points [-]

It's the only Nash equilibrium. The only way everyone can win (and thus, the only way no-one would want to change their guess if they knew all the other guesses) is for all of us to guess a number that is 2/3 of itself: i.e. 0.

ETA: CannibalSmith's explanation is better.

ETA2: AllanCrossman's is even better.

Comment author: hrishimittal 09 June 2009 11:27:05AM 0 points [-]

Then I don't see the point of the game.

Comment author: hrishimittal 09 June 2009 09:41:55AM 1 point [-]

I don't understand how the average guess will be 0. Can you please explain?

Comment author: hrishimittal 08 June 2009 09:57:26AM 0 points [-]

I've never been actively part of an online community before, so I'm a bit scared to come along. I do find this group interesting though, so I might come to the next meetup.

I don't mind the place as long as it's quiet, but prefer the format to be casual. Except for Tuesday, any day of the week is fine by me.

Comment author: Matt_Simpson 06 June 2009 05:02:12PM 2 points [-]

If you replace von Mises' intuitions with the particular intuitions neoclassical economics is built from ( to the extent that they differ), then it depends on the particular question you are trying to answer. Market activity is approximated reasonably well by the rationality assumption in a variety of cases. Kahnemann and Tversky's evidence that humans are irrational is certainly strong, but in many cases trying to incorporate this reduces tractability to such an extent that it isn't worth it, or at least we don't know how to incorporate it. A good heuristic is to use rationality for long-run phenomena and when possible, use irrationality for the short run.

Comment author: hrishimittal 07 June 2009 07:06:50PM 0 points [-]

and when possible, use irrationality for the short run.

How exactly do you use irrationality?

Comment author: hrishimittal 03 June 2009 06:10:39PM 0 points [-]

I'm considering donating to World Vision UK. Does anyone know much about them?

More generally, is there an easy way to find out how good a charity is? Are there reviews done by third parties?

Comment author: hrishimittal 03 June 2009 09:20:46AM 4 points [-]

Eric Drexler.

Comment author: Cyan 02 June 2009 03:26:34PM 10 points [-]

How should I go about deciding whether to continue this?

With science!

Specifically, the science of John Gottman. Short version: irreconcilable differences of viewpoint are not an intrinsic bar to a long-lasting relationship. The most potent relationship poison is contempt.

Comment author: hrishimittal 02 June 2009 05:12:09PM 0 points [-]

Thanks for the link Cyan.

Comment author: QuestionTime 02 June 2009 02:30:34PM *  7 points [-]

I need relationship advice and I trust the wisdom and honesty of this community more than most of my friends. I created a new account to ask this question.

I'm with an incredibly compassionate, creative woman. She excels at her job, which is a "helping profession," and one which I believe improves social welfare far more than most. The sex is outstanding.

But she loves magical thinking, she is somewhat averse to expected-utility calculations, my atheism, etc. She is, by her own admission, subject to strong swings of emotion and at greater than average risk of longer-lasting depression. We love each other but are scared that our differences may be too great.

How would you personally feel about a relationship like this? How should I go about deciding whether to continue this?

Added: We have been together more than 6 months. She has learned a decent amount about my way of thinking, but I have not pushed it on her. I frequently mention how great rationality is (but also mock myself to make sure we're all having fun).

I wish I had confidence that trying to convert her to my way of thinking would have net-benefits for her and for the world long-term, but I don't. Not that I'm convinced trying to convert her is a bad idea on utilitarian grounds either, it just seems risky.

Comment author: hrishimittal 02 June 2009 05:06:15PM 3 points [-]

I'm in a situation which seems sort of the opposite of yours. I'm with a woman, who's more rational than any other I personally know. But the sex is just not very good, and I find myself getting physically drawn to other women a bit too much. I've struggled for weeks, trying to decide whether to continue or not. I've tried hard to think what I really want. And I think that if I were sexually satisfied, I would be very happy with the relationship because everything else seems perfect. So, I'm trying to work on that now. I'm paying more attention to being a loving and sensuous partner. Let's say I'm experimenting on the weak aspects of my relationship.

If I were in your place, I'd take each point of disagreement on its own merit. If it's decisions where the results can be seen clearly I wouldn't argue but just politely point to the results. As far as religious beliefs are concerned, the more I think about it the more I feel, that defining myself as an 'atheist' is only useful in saying that I don't believe in God. Beyond that, it doesn't add anything valuable to my personality. It can't because it's a negative definition. So, I would try and deal with specific issues rather than try to convince my partner that theism is wrong. If she believes in magic, playful humour might lighten things up a bit.

I also think it would be useful if you learnt more about her way of thinking, just like she has learnt about yours.

Comment author: hrishimittal 29 May 2009 06:21:03PM 1 point [-]

Thanks. That looks like a really interesting body of work. This one on ethics is quite a fun read.

Comment author: hrishimittal 21 May 2009 01:18:16PM *  0 points [-]

"Plod forever, but never believe you are going to get there."

-Sir Ranulph Fiennes

EDIT: I found this quote funny and strangely motivational, if you read it within the context. But looks like some people really dislike it.

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