Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 November 2012 05:58:03PM 10 points [-]

Obviously physicists totally know about causality being restricted to the light cone! And "curvature of space = light cones at each point" isn't Penrose, it's standard General Relativity.

Comment author: irrationalist 30 November 2012 04:08:42PM 0 points [-]

Not claiming it's his own idea, just that it showed up in the book, I assume it's standard.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 28 November 2012 08:07:59AM 19 points [-]

The relationship between continuous causal diagrams and the modern laws of physics that you described was fascinating. What's the mainstream status of that?

Comment author: irrationalist 28 November 2012 12:45:41PM 2 points [-]

Showed up in Penrose's "The Fabric of Reality." Curvature of spacetime is determined by infinitesimal light cones at each point. You can get a uniquely determined surface from a connection as well as a connection from a surface.

Comment author: pjeby 27 January 2012 09:22:49PM 1 point [-]

not sure why I have to give up the hatred though.

You don't "have to" do anything. But you'll likely experience "ugh fields" and akrasia trying to do anything that will make you too much like an "attractive and popular" person, until/unless you drop it.

Comment author: irrationalist 31 January 2012 12:07:01AM 0 points [-]

true dat.

Doesn't even need to go as far as ugh fields and akrasia -- it's an explicit choice.

Comment author: irrationalist 27 January 2012 05:31:13AM 8 points [-]

I only have two kinds of political discussions now:

  1. Pure trolling for emotional catharsis
  2. Finding a way to evade the political part of the issue (in other words, if you're concerned about making medical care cheaper, can I think of a way to help you achieve your goal that doesn't require anyone to vote a particular way?)

The second is, I sincerely believe, the best way for us non-politicians to solve problems. The first is something I just kind of like doing. It's pure hate and I don't pretend it's anything else.

Comment author: pjeby 23 January 2012 10:22:21PM 5 points [-]

Come to think of it, one significant reason why I became apathetic with regards to the activities the "ambitious kids" did in high school is that they annoyed me so much. The idea of spending a lot of time with the kind of people who were in Volunteer Club in high school is pretty unbearable.

Yeah, it's that sort of "annoyance" and "ick" that's the sort of disapproval I'm talking about. When you have one attached to a group stereotype, it means you'll have an aversion to expressing any characteristic of yourself that "means" you'd be one of "them".

For example, at one point I found vegans annoying, and this made it difficult for me to switch to a mostly-vegetable diet, because then I'd be one of "them".

Unfortunately, this ingroup/outgroup signaling by our brains has almost nothing to do with actual morality OR personal utility. Our brains will rationalize like crazy to give us high-sounding reasons for our annoyance, to make us feel we're taking a principled stand somehow, but in actuality the whole thing is moot. You approving of the "ambitious kids" (or your status-cheating valedictorian friend) as people won't actually contribute to some sort of moral decay in society, no matter how much your tribal brain makes you feel like it is.

Comment author: irrationalist 27 January 2012 05:23:57AM 0 points [-]

Yeah. I feel this way about attractive and popular people. I hate them too much to ever consider imitating them. (not sure why I have to give up the hatred though.)

Comment author: Kevin 26 January 2012 06:25:26AM -2 points [-]

... I was going to ask you "why Oxfam" and then noticed your user name.

Comment author: irrationalist 26 January 2012 12:46:48PM 3 points [-]

Are there disadvantages to Oxfam? They looked pretty legitimate -- food, medicine, disaster relief, no history of fraud that I know of. Sort of the index fund of charities.

Comment author: irrationalist 26 January 2012 06:16:04AM *  2 points [-]

$500 to Oxfam.

$50 to Ron Paul. (Libertarianism is not important to me, but it is important to the quality of life of someone I care about.)

$50 to Planned Parenthood.

Comment author: irrationalist 26 January 2012 06:10:20AM 0 points [-]

It's posts like these that make me wish I had a group of powerful allies. I really have no tribe. It's rather demoralizing.

Comment author: irrationalist 26 January 2012 05:56:03AM 1 point [-]

I'm quite ambitious in the status/career sense. Rather averse to unnecessary effort (necessary effort I can handle, but I won't work for the sake of working) and extremely averse to having goals that aren't mine thrust upon me. I'm protective of my mental state and I don't do things that cause me undue stress. That kind of goes against the rationalist ethic of "always push yourself, psychological pain is unimportant, tsuyoku naritai." But meh. It's what I want to do. So far, it seems that I can have fun in a way that advances my professional goals, and so I don't have to be a martyr. Desperate efforts are for later, if ever.

Comment author: irrationalist 26 January 2012 05:42:32AM 8 points [-]

I think I might be living by urges alone. Whenever I see something about "goals" or "self-discipline" or "self-improvement" I immediately shut down and get miserable. My brain says "I don't want to, dammit!" Of course, people tell me I am self-disciplined, but I see that as merely being practical; if it makes any sense, I'm willing to be practical but severely freaked out by aspirational or normative thinking.

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