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Meetup : Informal Munich Meetup

0 jasticE 11 August 2017 09:44AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Informal Munich Meetup

WHEN: 11 August 2017 06:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Munich

Just a little get-together, and you're invited! location tbd

https://www.facebook.com/events/258730087972332

Discussion article for the meetup : Informal Munich Meetup

Meetup : Less Wrong, More Summer, Munich Picnic

0 jasticE 22 May 2016 04:21PM

Discussion article for the meetup : Less Wrong, More Summer, Munich Picnic

WHEN: 04 June 2016 01:00:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Tuerkenstr. 29, Muenchen

Location: Cafe Katzentempel, Türkenstr. 29

See Meetup event for updates: http://www.meetup.com/LessWrongMunich/events/231308219/

Discussion article for the meetup : Less Wrong, More Summer, Munich Picnic

Meetup : LessWrong Meetup August: Correctness Heuristics

1 jasticE 25 July 2015 05:48PM

Discussion article for the meetup : LessWrong Meetup August: Correctness Heuristics

WHEN: 15 August 2015 07:48:00PM (+0200)

WHERE: Pinakothek der Moderne, Munich

Our next Mostly Monthly Munich Meetup is on August 15.

Please see the announcement on Meetup for details and RSVP

Discussion article for the meetup : LessWrong Meetup August: Correctness Heuristics

Comment author: jasticE 19 June 2015 08:27:26AM 0 points [-]

Location changed to Café Puck due to wet weather.

Meetup : Munich June Meetup

1 jasticE 04 June 2015 12:27PM

Discussion article for the meetup : Munich June Meetup

WHEN: 20 June 2015 03:00:51PM (+0200)

WHERE: Café Puck, Türkenstraße 33, Munich

Please see the announcement on Meetup.com for details, discussion and exact location: http://www.meetup.com/LessWrongMunich/events/223011559/

Discussion article for the meetup : Munich June Meetup

Meetup : May Meetup

1 jasticE 26 April 2015 09:30AM

Discussion article for the meetup : May Meetup

WHEN: 16 May 2015 03:00:15PM (+0200)

WHERE: Pinakothek der Moderne, Munich

The Meetup on the month of May! As usual, all newcomers are welcome.

Please RSVP on Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/LessWrongMunich/events/222075124/

For this meetup, let's start out with reviewing our predictions from last time and further discuss our little prediction game.

Further topics: Up to you! Suggestions encouraged!

Good weather location: Lawn between Pinakothek der Moderne and Museum Reich der Kristalle (aka Mathebau). I'll be there with a picnic blanket and a Less Wrong logo.

Bad weather (wet/chilly): Café Puck, Türkenstraße 33

If you have any trouble finding us, call me: +49 151 65156 404

Discussion article for the meetup : May Meetup

Comment author: eggman 19 February 2014 03:54:26AM *  8 points [-]

My following queries are addressed to those who have experience using nicotine as a nootropic and/or have learned much about what taking nicotine as a nootropic is like. If you yourself don't match either of these descriptions, but have gained information from those who do, also please feel free to answer my queries. However, references, or citations, backing up the information you provide would be appreciated. If you're aware of another thread, or post, where my concerns, or questions, have previously been addressed, please let me know.

Gwern, appreciated on Less Wrong for the caliber of his analysis, makes the case for experimenting with using nicotine as a nootropic on an occasional basis. For the use of nicotine as a nootropic within the community which is Less Wrong, the most recent date for which I could find data on usage rates was the 2012 Less Wrong survey results:

NICOTINE (OTHER THAN SMOKING): Never used: 916, 77.4% Rarely use: 82, 6.9% 1x/month: 32, 2.7% Every day: 14, 1.2% No answer: 139, 11.7%

I haven't used nootropics other than caffeine in the past, but when I was first reading about the promise they might hold for improving my cognition in various ways I was impressed. What was true in general of my impression of nootropics was also true for my impression of nicotine in particular. Upon reading Gwern's analysis, I was excited. However, based upon the survey results, I was surprised that there weren't more Less Wrong users using nicotine more frequently. This could be because P(Less Wrong user taking any uncommon nootropic), or P(Less Wrong user being aware of the uses of uncommon nootropics) might be lower than I would have expected, so P(Less Wrong user taking nicotine as a nootropic) would consequently be lower than I would expect as well.

I asked one of my friends from the rationality meetup I attend if he would use nicotine as a nootropic, and he told me he probably wouldn't. When I asked him the reason for this, he told me he feared the affects addiction of nicotine might have upon him.

Gwern's conclusion on trying nicotine as a nootropic is as follows:

So what’s the upshot? My reading has convinced me to at least give it a try and it has been useful (see the nicotine section of Nootropics). The negatives universally seem to be long-term negatives, and even if nicotine turns out to be something I haul out only in a crisis or every few weeks, it would still have been worth investigating.

It seems the stigma, perhaps quite justified, around any use of nicotine could be preventing more people from trying nicotine as a nootropic. The fact that the community of Less Wrong seemed less excited about trying nicotine as a nootropic than I used to be is a fact I took as a signal that I was missing something in the risk inherent in trying to take nicotine. That was almost a year ago. Since then, I haven't tried nicotine as a nootropic, or any others, except continued use of caffeine, for that matter.

I want to take another look at nicotine again. With the advent of electronic cigarettes, and their increasing ubiquity, it seems the risk of switching from nicotine patches, or gum, to tobacco products, is lessened. If one were to develop a dependency on nicotine, and then becomes addicted to the use of tobacco products for whatever reason, one could transition back to consuming only nicotine by using electronic cigarettes. So, for the user in question, the health risks associated with the habit could revert back to only those risks posed by the use of nicotine, unmixed with the other harmful ingredients of tobacco products.

Nevertheless, the use of only nicotine itself can pose health risks, which are outlined in the linked review written by Gwern.

So:

  • if you have considered using nicotine as nootropic, but ultimately didn't pursue its use, what was the reason(s) why you didn't?

  • if you have used nicotine as a nootropic, if you believe you did experience them, what were the dependency affects like? What impact did they have on your life?

  • if you have previously used nicotine as a nootropic, but have ceased doing so, what were your reasons for doing so?

  • if both you and someone else you know have used nicotine as a nootropic, and the quality of your respective experiences differed substantially, how? Why do you believe this was/is the case?

  • for those in the know, are there any questions on this topic I'm not asking, but I should be asking?

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Comment author: jasticE 29 March 2015 11:25:38AM 0 points [-]

I have never smoked, but I use nicotine gum occasionally. It feels like it gives me a slight "edge" when I need to concentrate better, and I definitely feel more of an effect than with typical caffeine doses (which I don't consume regularly either). I tend to chew the gums longer than regular chewing gums, but I feel no particular desire for them when, and actually tend to forget I have them.

Meetup : Munich April Meetup

1 jasticE 28 March 2015 12:32PM

Discussion article for the meetup : Munich April Meetup

WHEN: 18 April 2015 03:00:03PM (+0200)

WHERE: Café Puck, Türkenstraße 33, Munich

It's time for another meetup! If you are new, please do come and say hi.

Topics: Let's develop and play a prediction game, taking some inspirations from Julia Galef's post "16 types of useful predictions": http://lesswrong.com/lw/m0m/ Further suggestions absolutely welcome.

Bad weather location: Café Puck, Türkenstraße 33

Good weather location (one can hope): The lawn between Pinakothek der Moderne and Mathebau / Museum Reich der Kristalle.

Join the LessWrong Munich Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lesswrongmunich/ If you have any trouble finding us, call me: +49 151 65156 404

Discussion article for the meetup : Munich April Meetup

Comment author: jasticE 07 January 2015 02:06:37AM 0 points [-]

If you have any trouble finding us, just call me at +49 151 65156 404 Hope to see somebody new!

Comment author: labachevskij 27 May 2014 01:57:14PM 0 points [-]

June 2014 or 2015?

Comment author: jasticE 28 May 2014 04:13:26PM 0 points [-]

2014 :)

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