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Comment author: Izeinwinter 26 February 2015 03:48:11PM 1 point [-]

And since todays temp work was impressively mindless, I got rather a lot of thinking done.

Fair warning, this may well just be heading right into epileptic trees turf.

Dumbledore just cast himself from time in order to fulfill the prophecy about Harry Potter.

That line about how Harry will have to find some other dark lord to vanquish? It was not about the far future at all, it was about the next four minutes.

Let me explain: As long as the prophecy is in play, only Harry can defeat the dark lord. And that is not going to work against Voldemort. An 11 year old, no matter how resourceful and clever is just not going to come out on top of that fight. But just as the prophecy could have been about Neville as well as Harry, there is also more than one dark lord it could be about. The story pointed this out earlier.

So the prophecy is no longer in effect. Voldemort can be defeated by anyone with the firepower and a counter for the horcruxes.

And Dumbledore, the order of the pheonix, and everyone else he could bring in on it have crowdsourced a smackdown, which is about to land.

Most of this smackdown is in the form of longterm plots that are about to bear fruit.

From the top: Dumbledore knew who Quirrel and Harry were, from day one. Each and every single piece of information given to Harry was relayed in the expectation that Voldemort would hear it.

Dumble, Flamel, et all made a fake true cloak of invisibility. The point of this being to provide misinformation about what the mark of the deadly hallows looks like. I don't know what the "stone of resurrection" actually is, but I think Voldy will not like what it does, not one tiny bit. At a guess, it is for mapping out the magical "net" and find the darn things?

The people who just apparated in: Not death eaters. They're masked and cloaked minions. That's such a cliche it's actually painful to contemplate.

Voldemorts use of the stone to raise the dead is not the first time it has been used to do that. The rite he intended to use is not original to him, it is an old piece of lore, and it is an old piece of lore Flamel told the order of the phoenix about. This means "Flamel" has been able to raise anyone who still had foes and servants living and known graves of ancestors.

So it isn't new. Not widely used, but not new. Note that this isn't a good rite for defeating death in general, simply because most people dont have the first two at all. But it is a very effective way to ditch an identity for any of her collaborators who are in it for the long haul. Which means a lot of very powerful, supposedly deceased wizards and witches owe her. And he just tried to have her killed. (May even have succeeded. If so, she's probably already back up and wanting her stone back before anything expires.)

That is what the hour's delay in Snapes room was about - it was to take all the deatheaters into custody, and gather people up for a seriously onesided bout. The reason this ends in "liters of blood" is that the plan is to drain Voldemort dry so that they can raise as many of his victims as possible.

Oh, and Dumbledore didn't have unique access to divination, beyond a season pass to the hall of prophecies. That would make the plot unsolvable, because we can't reason a-causally.

Comment author: jkaufman 26 February 2015 08:11:17PM 0 points [-]

How does the fake Cloak hide you from the Mirror?

Comment author: MathMage 26 February 2015 06:20:02PM 1 point [-]

I am dubious that "seeking help from the Muggles" is as straightforward as you seem to think it is.

Comment author: jkaufman 26 February 2015 08:08:25PM 0 points [-]

Can't you Imperious a few heads of state?

(Though probably not, or someone would have done it, though McGonagall may be aware of the details of the restrictions.)

Comment author: jkaufman 26 February 2015 07:57:17PM 5 points [-]

Crazy thought: Merlin lives backwards, Dumbledore has the Line of Merlin Unbroken, Dumbledore has a weird way of being able to make the future happen for the wrong reasons, Dumbledore just vanished into a place beyond time. Which makes me think Dumbledore might be Merlin's origin.

Comment author: Desrtopa 25 February 2015 03:29:38PM 4 points [-]

For instance, Harry believes that the wizarding economy should be trivially exploitable via exchange with the Muggle precious-metals market. He believes this because even though he knows about half-bloods (i.e. witches and wizards who have a Muggle parent), he thinks that he is special and that nobody else ever would have thought of that.

Don't forget, his Occlumency teacher would mention after every session that he wished he would be allowed to remember the arbitrage trick.

Eliezer has talked about how one of his main reasons for writing the story as a work of fanfiction is that it gets the audience to accept a world that is massively exploitable by the main characters, which they would have thought was a case of the author making things too easy on them if the author had actually created it. Eliezer wrote a story set in the world of Harry Potter because Rowling didn't think very hard about the implications of her worldbuilding and created a massively exploitable setting.

Comment author: jkaufman 25 February 2015 04:27:29PM 1 point [-]

his Occlumency teacher would mention after every session that he wished he would be allowed to remember the arbitrage trick.

Which is also consistent with "Harry expects it to work and the teacher doesn't know much about finance".

Comment author: nydwracu 23 February 2015 03:52:55AM 1 point [-]

Scribbles over the mirror room? I'm asking why Baba Quirrellmort would want himself and Harry to show up as "Tom M. Riddle" on the map. (Which reveals to anyone who has the map that Q = V and H = V, which reveals the horcrux thing...)

Comment author: jkaufman 23 February 2015 04:12:24PM 1 point [-]

The map may not have shown that at other times. Dumbledore didn't remark on it when he asked "find Tom Riddle". ("Harry? You're Tom Riddle? WTF?) All we know is that the map currently says they're both Riddle.

Comment author: TryingToThink 19 February 2015 04:23:13PM 0 points [-]

This could explain the reduced number of comments. As Alsadius pointed out, there used to be 500 comments per chapter, so it stands to logic that as the series advance more users figure it out and stop commenting so as not to spoil it.

Comment author: jkaufman 20 February 2015 03:57:21PM 0 points [-]

These are also way shorter chapters.

Comment author: TobyBartels 19 February 2015 08:07:54AM 0 points [-]

FWIW, I'm pretty sure that EY would endorse the claim that lying depends on a brain feature that snakes lack. Lying in the sense of deliberate deception requires a theory of mind of the one being deceived, and snakes aren't that intelligent, or so I believe that EY believes (and for that matter believe myself).

OTOH, snakes aren't intelligent enough to talk either; in HPMOR, they only do so by borrowing the mind of the Parseltonguer. And Parseltonguers can conceive of other minds, both for the benefit of snakes and for their own speech. So this doesn't prove anything.

Comment author: jkaufman 20 February 2015 02:36:50PM 1 point [-]

Lying in the sense of deliberate deception requires a theory of mind of the one being deceived, and snakes aren't that intelligent ...

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's EY's model.

But a snake animagus doesn't have a snake brain; you keep your normal mind while you're an animagus.

Comment author: Velorien 18 February 2015 03:29:48PM 1 point [-]

But Quirrell's justification RE Parseltongue was "snakes can't lie". So if we believe his explanation to begin with, we must assume that normal snake-talk is equally trustworthy.

Comment author: jkaufman 18 February 2015 08:08:26PM *  2 points [-]

Another possibility is that snakes can't lie (lying depends on some brain feature they lack) and Parselmouthing people can't lie (part of how it works) but a snake animagus is neither and so can lie.

Comment author: Velorien 18 February 2015 03:29:48PM 1 point [-]

But Quirrell's justification RE Parseltongue was "snakes can't lie". So if we believe his explanation to begin with, we must assume that normal snake-talk is equally trustworthy.

Comment author: jkaufman 18 February 2015 03:59:14PM 0 points [-]

Or it's almost all truth with one crucial lie.

Comment author: garabik 17 February 2015 09:03:35PM 3 points [-]

Help me obtain Sstone of Transsfiguration, and I sshall try my hardesst to ressurrect your girl-child friend to true and lassting life.

But not necessarily the same physical form - thus the Alicorn Princess.

Comment author: jkaufman 18 February 2015 03:44:23PM 6 points [-]

Maybe she needs to come back as a unicorn, so she can have steady access to unicorn blood?

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