Comment author: MarkusRamikin 28 June 2011 12:19:11PM *  4 points [-]

Given mandatory donation, it seems reasonable to me that opting out of it would be standard part of the paperwork involved with signing up for cryonics.

Comment author: kragensitaker 11 August 2011 08:58:42PM *  4 points [-]

If you can opt out of it, it's not mandatory! You could get the best of both worlds, though: vitrify your head and donate the rest of your body. The only loss is, I think, your corneas.

Comment author: DSimon 10 January 2011 05:26:00PM 3 points [-]

This is one of my, perhaps the, best justification for being mostly vegetarian rather than strictly vegetarian.

Well, but unlike the atom-cooling example, becoming a strict vegetarian doesn't cut off your communication with non-vegetarians.

I suppose being just mostly vegetarian might make a vegetarian lifestyle seem more approachable to others, but I'd have to see evidence to go either way on that question. Off the cuff, it also seems plausible that being a strict vegetarian would make the possibility of strict vegetarianism seem more attainable to others.

Comment author: kragensitaker 11 August 2011 08:56:38PM 2 points [-]

Well, but unlike the atom-cooling example, becoming a strict vegetarian doesn't cut off your communication with non-vegetarians.

It does make it more difficult to go to the steakhouse with them, or eat over at their house.

Comment author: kragensitaker 11 August 2011 07:21:14PM *  0 points [-]

The language-learning case is an interesting example. There are some things you can do.

One is that, if you're extraverted, instead of studying Swahili by hunching over books of grammar, you can study Swahili by talking to cute Kenyan exchange students. This way, the actual process of learning itself is enjoyable. (Mostly. You'll still be embarrassed frequently, and it's in your interest to turn the embarrassment dial up further by asking them to correct your grammatical errors.)

Another is that you actually can make the decision to study Swahili "in aggregate," rather than every night. Just go to rural Tanzania for six months and don't take any books or English-speaking friends with you, keep your internet access to a minimum.

This strategy has worked reasonably well for me in learning Spanish, although my Spanish is still pretty unidiomatic. I still speak English often with my wife, and I work online.

To generalize the principles a bit, if you can find a fun way to achieve your approved-of goal, a way that you enjoy, you're more likely to do it; and if you can find a way to make the decision once instead of numerous times, you're more likely to do it.

Comment author: Jef_Allbright 10 December 2008 03:38:43PM 0 points [-]

Coming from a background in scientific instruments, I always find this kind of analysis a bit jarring with its infinite regress involving the rational, self-interested actor at the core.

Of course two instruments will agree if they share the same nature, within the same environment, measuring the same object. You can map onto that a model of priors, likelihood function and observed evidence if you wish. Translated to agreement between two agents, the only thing remaining is an effective model of the relationship of the observer to the observed.

Comment author: kragensitaker 26 February 2011 06:11:37AM 0 points [-]

The crucial difference here is that the two "instruments" share the same nature, but they are "measuring" different objects — that is, the hypothetical rationalists do not have access to the same observed evidence about the world. But by virtue of "measuring", among other things, one another, they are supposed to come into agreement.

Comment author: komponisto 20 November 2010 02:05:41AM *  9 points [-]

Squared differences is just what is involved when you are calculating things like standard deviation

Never mind that; just parse the damn phrase! All you need to know is what a "difference" is, and what "to square" means.

Why, I wonder, do people assume that words lose their individual meanings when combined, so that something like "squared differences" registers as "[unknown vocabulary item]" rather than "differences that have been squared"?

Comment author: kragensitaker 24 November 2010 01:12:33PM 1 point [-]

It's also very helpful to know things like why someone might go around squaring differences and then summing them, and what kinds of situations that makes sense in. That way you can tell when you make errors of interpretation. For example, "differences pertaining to the squared" is a plausible but less likely interpretation of "squared differences", but knowing that people commonly square differences and then sum them in order to calculate an L₂ norm, often because they are going to take the derivative of the result so as to solve for a local minimum, makes that a much less plausible interpretation.

And for a Bayesian to be rational in the colloquial sense, they must always remember to assign some substantial probability weight to "other". For example, you can't simply assume that words like "sum" and "differences" are being used with one of the meanings you're familiar with; you must remember that there's always the possibility that you're encountering a new sense of the word.

Comment author: simplicio 22 March 2010 04:33:01AM 2 points [-]

What is the cipher here?

Comment author: kragensitaker 30 May 2010 11:38:22AM 20 points [-]

The AI is communicating in a perfectly clear fashion. But the human's internal inhibitions are blinding them to what is being communicated: they can look directly at it, but they can never understand what delusion the AI is trying to tell them about, because that would shake their faith in that delusion.

Comment author: Marcello 15 July 2009 04:29:57PM 39 points [-]
  • We actually live in hyperspace: our universe really has four spacial dimensions. However, our bodies are fully four dimensional; we are not wafer thin slices a la flatland. We don't perceive there to be four dimensions because our visual cortexes have a defect somewhat like that of people who can't notice anything on the right side of their visual field.

  • Not only do we have an absolute denial macro, but it is a programmable absolute denial macro and there are things much like computer viruses which use it and spread through human population. That is, if you modulated your voice in a certain way at someone, it would cause them (and you) to acquire a brand new self deception, and start transmitting it to others.

  • Some of the people you believe are dead are actually alive, but no matter how hard they try to get other people to notice them, their actions are immediately forgotten and any changes caused by those actions are rationalized away.

  • There are transparent contradictions inherent in all current mathematical systems for reasoning about real numbers, but no human mathematician/physicist can notice them because they rely heavily on visuospacial reasoning to construct real analysis proofs.

Comment author: kragensitaker 28 February 2010 03:36:06AM 6 points [-]

Some of the people you believe are dead are actually alive, but no matter how hard they try to get other people to notice them, their actions are immediately forgotten and any changes caused by those actions are rationalized away.

There seems to be strong evidence that this is true in Haïti.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 15 July 2009 05:39:07AM 18 points [-]

Not that I know of offhand. I'm vastly curious as to whether I could beat it, of course - but wouldn't dare try to find out, even if there were a simulating drug that was supposedly strictly temporary, any more than I dare ride a motorcycle or go skydiving.

Comment author: kragensitaker 27 February 2010 03:47:01AM 3 points [-]

There are plenty of drugs that stimulate temporary psychosis, and some of them, like LSD, are quite safe, physically. What makes you so wary?

(I haven't tried LSD myself, due in part to unpleasant experiences with Ritalin as a child.)

Comment author: PeteG 20 July 2009 07:29:25PM *  40 points [-]

The AI tells me that I believe something with 100% certainty, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. I ask it to explain, and I get: "ksjdflasj7543897502ijweofjoishjfoiow02u5".

I don't know if I'd believe this, but it would definitely be the strangest and scariest thing to hear.

Comment author: kragensitaker 27 February 2010 03:15:01AM 3 points [-]

This is the only one that made the short hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

Comment author: DanArmak 24 February 2010 08:20:54AM *  1 point [-]

Since when do RC Catholics venerate rationality?

ETA: I have tried and failed to find, through Google, any mention of a special connection between RC belief and rationality. Possibly they accept rationality, but that they venerate it is a much stronger claim. Could someone please give a ref and not just downvote?

Comment author: kragensitaker 25 February 2010 04:07:05AM 13 points [-]

Since St. Augustine. One of the core tenets of their faith is that the existence of God can be proven through the use of reason alone, and throughout the centuries they have spent almost as much time as the rabbis arguing about dogma, although with a distinctly different attitude about the need to come to a conclusion.

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