Comment author: Lumifer 16 November 2015 06:04:24PM *  3 points [-]

I'm inclined to call it "not even wrong", but let's take an example. The Financial Crisis is the crisis of 2008. It started (the crisis itself, not the preshocks), notably, with a bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers which the Fed allowed to happen. This, by the way, was later deemed to have been a mistake and the TBTF -- Too Big To Fail -- monsters were born. The immediate danger during the September and October of 2008 was that the global payment network would freeze because of counterparty uncertainty and that the world finance would, essentially, collapse. That did not happen, but the effects on real economy were severe nevertheless -- consult any GDP graph for the relevant period.

So let's apply Levine's definition. Who in 2008 were the borrowers and who were the lenders? It was deemed "socially or politically unacceptable" for which creditors to not get their money back? Is it a useful way to think about the situation?

Comment author: lmm 26 November 2015 11:20:27AM -1 points [-]

AIG was the borrower (and separately Fannie and Freddie), banks were the lenders, it is absolutely useful to think about the situation in those terms. It highlights the conflict between our political intuition that insurance should be protected and financial speculation should not - some people thought AIG was doing one, some people thought the other. Likewise some people thought Freddie and Fannie were widows-and-orphans investments that the government should guarantee and some people thought they were private financial traders. Clarifying these things could have averted the crisis, it's absolutely a useful model.

Comment author: gwern 04 November 2015 07:42:34PM *  1 point [-]

will be/are being dealt with in the ongoing season, Owarimonogatari, which is very good so far.

I hope so. Hanamonogatari was a big disappointment after Second Season.

Her issue

No, I got that much. The dialogues were very blunt about that. The problem is that Nadeko is also explained at length to have several other issues, such as being so self-involved that she cannot understand or listen to other people besides her own delusions, and to have a fake love to insulate herself from other people, and these three character problems are practically mutually contradictory (if she's overly cute to please other people, then she doesn't need a fake love; if she's that self-centered & navel-gazing, then why does she need to be overly cute, and how did she fail at self-insight so consistently? if the love was just a convenience, what's with the whole homicidal rage, not to mention the rather sadistic treatment of snakes right from the beginning of her backstory? how does any of this really fit with the final twist of her being na nfcvevat znatnxn, juvpu lbh'q guvax jbhyq or nagvgurgvpny gb orvat hygen-frys-nofbeorq naq ynpxvat nal erny vafvtug vagb barfrys? and so on). The character makes no sense, but not in a good way, more of a 'Nise wrote himself into a corner and piled on too many problems to try to justify her homicidal rage' (ie 'the lady doth protest too much'). All in all, it left me feeling nonplussed and maybe a bit disgusted.

Comment author: lmm 10 November 2015 12:57:26PM 0 points [-]

Just for the record I really liked her arc. I think I saw part of myself in her? Would have to rewatch to be able to be any more specific.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 01 November 2015 09:30:30PM 1 point [-]

Nonfiction Books Thread

Comment author: lmm 07 November 2015 03:44:04PM 1 point [-]

Until the Sea Shall Free Them. Inherently partisan, and I have no real measure of its accuracy, but a compelling narrative that goes some way in expanding to the systemic ways things go wrong, while still very firmly rooted in its single example.

Comment author: ShardPhoenix 02 November 2015 04:01:05AM *  1 point [-]

the Kanbaru arc which seems to be the final arc

That's the final arc chronologically, but there are still a number of unresolved/unrevealed things that will be/are being dealt with in the ongoing season, Owarimonogatari, which is very good so far.

I find the character Nadeko Sengoku impossible to understand

Her issue was that she felt forced to act overly cute to please other people, and eventually got sick of it and lashed out.

Comment author: lmm 06 November 2015 09:48:30PM 0 points [-]

Do you know how much more there is to go? We're still waiting for the prequel movie, right?

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 01 November 2015 09:30:26PM 1 point [-]

Fiction Books Thread

Comment author: lmm 06 November 2015 09:48:01PM 1 point [-]

Light, by M John Harrison (based on the first 22%). I'm finding it genuinely hard to read - a bit like The Quantum Thief or The January Dancer, but more so than either of them. I can't yet say it's good per se - in particular the three narrative strands show very little sign of converging at this stake - but it's a striking, provocative experience.

Comment author: SodaPopinski 04 November 2015 07:30:57PM *  0 points [-]

My question is simply: Do we have any reason to believe that the uncertainty introduced by quantum mechanics will preclude the level of precision in which two agents have to model each other in order to engage in acausal trade?

Comment author: lmm 06 November 2015 08:01:16PM 0 points [-]

No. There are any number of predictable systems in our quantum universe, and no reason to believe that an agent need be anything other than e.g. a computer program. In any case "noise" is the wrong way to think about QM; quantum behaviour is precisely predictable, it's just the subjective Born probabilities that apply.

Comment author: Liron 04 November 2015 01:52:55AM *  5 points [-]

I made this joke site: https://flashcash.money

It's often rational to burn cash on positional goods like Rolexes and bottle service at clubs, but FlashCash.money takes that value proposition to the logical extreme.

Comment author: lmm 06 November 2015 07:27:55PM 0 points [-]

The problem is the site looks cheap. If I'm showing off how rich I am, I want something that looks elegant and refined.

Comment author: SodaPopinski 24 October 2015 10:51:41PM 0 points [-]

Yes, I understand the point of acausal trading. The point of my question was to speculate on how likely it is that quantum mechanics may prohibit modeling accurate enough to make acausal trading actually work. My intuition is based on the fact that in general faster than light transmission of information is prohibited. For example, even though entangled particles update on each others state when they are outside of each others light cone, it is known that it is not possible transmit information faster than light using this fact.
Now, does mutually enhancing each others utility count as information, I don't think so. But my instinct is that acausal trade protocols will not be possible do to the level of modelling required and the noise introduced by quantum mechanics.

Comment author: lmm 04 November 2015 01:15:18PM 0 points [-]

I don't understand. Computers are able to provide reliable boolean logic even though they're made of quantum mechanics. And any "uncertainty" introduced by QM has nothing to do with distance. You seem very confused.

Comment author: ike 24 October 2015 06:41:16PM 0 points [-]

That's true, but he's talking from the company's side. If the target market are those that wouldn't invest at all, then the company could be providing real value overall.

I wouldn't use such a company, of course; but the target demo is not "people who think logically about investments unless they get fuzzies".

His argument is

  1. Let people spend their extra cash however they want
  2. This company seems likely to be a net utility plus for society

The fact that its users are still irrational seems irrelevant then, and it's reminding me of the whole "Copenhagen ethics" post (to make the analogy explicit, the company is being blamed for the fact that its users aren't perfect, even though they're better off than without the company.

Comment author: lmm 04 November 2015 01:11:38PM 0 points [-]

I think it's legitimate to criticise a company for pretending to sell utilons when it isn't. Yes, this company may well be a better use of your money than Taylor Swift tickets. But Taylor Swift isn't marketed as an investment.

Comment author: ike 16 October 2015 02:17:01PM 1 point [-]

Like it is easy for me to sit here and say to young people, one, you should invest in broad index funds, not funds concentrated in trendy areas like the Internet or clean technology, and, two, you should try to minimize fees instead of paying someone just to rebrand index funds for you. But you should drink tap water instead of Coke, too, and stay home and read Proust instead of blowing a whole month of your salary on Taylor Swift tickets. All consumption is dumb, if you think too hard about it. That's why it is consumption.

Matt Levine

Comment author: lmm 24 October 2015 06:06:38PM 4 points [-]

I think there's an analogy with "purchase fuzzies and utilons separately" here that Levine misses. If you want to be trendy and have a bunch of investment return in the future, it's probably more efficient to buy those two things from separate sources than to try and get both with a single product.

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