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An alternative to Harry doing the ritual would be that Harry get's sacrificed by a ritual of Quirrelmort to bring back Voldemort.
Given how much Harry trust Quirrelmort, it should be in Quirrelmort's power.
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Harry doesn't trust Quirrell anymore, hasn't trusted him since the Azkaban arc. That was made pretty clear inthe conversation in the dark warehouse immediately after the raid.
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I don't want to get them to self-flagellate, but to look for what leverage they have and not worry as much about what it totally outside of their control.
Someone please tell Shinji Ikari about this radical notion.
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I don't want to get them to self-flagellate, but to look for what leverage they have and not worry as much about what it totally outside of their control.
Someone please tell Shinji Ikari about this radical notion.
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Any thoughts about how to apply this sort of thinking when you're extremely stressed?
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When feasible, do the things that relieve your stress.
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here. Format is ugly, but simple.
Number of chapter with epigraph - "epigraph" number of chapter with line in text - "original quote"
All are copy pastes.
1 - "Beneath the moonlight glints a tiny fragment of silver, a fraction of a line... (black robes, falling) ...blood spills out in litres, and someone screams a word." Not yet appeard
2 - ""Of course it was my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything."" - 90 -""Of course it's my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything.""
3 - ""But then the question is - who?"" 3 - ""Am I - could I be - maybe - you never know - if I'm not - but then the question is - who? ""
4 - ""World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."" 6 - "World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
5 - ""It would've required a supernatural intervention for him to have your morality given his environment."" 87 - "It would've required a supernatural intervention for him to have your morality given his environment -""
6 - "You think your day was surreal? Try mine." 6 - "You think your day was surreal? Try mine."
7 - ""Your dad is almost as awesome as my dad."" 7 - ""Your dad is almost as awesome as my dad.""
8 - ""Allow me to warn you that challenging my ingenuity is a dangerous sort of project, and may tend to make your life a lot more surreal."" 8 - ""I warn you that challenging my ingenuity is a dangerous project, and tends to make your life a lot more surreal.""
9 - "You never did know what tiny event might upset the course of your master plan." 9 - "you never did know what tiny event might upset the course of your master plan."(also present in Ch 11, second Omake)
10 - none 11 - none
12 - ""Wonder what's wrong with him."" 12 - ""Wonder what's wrong with him,""
13 - ""That's one of the most obvious riddles I've ever heard."" 13 - ""That's one of the most obvious riddles I've ever heard.""
14 - "There were mysterious questions, but a mysterious answer was a contradiction in terms." 14 - "There were mysterious questions, but a mysterious answer was a contradiction in terms"
15 - ""I'm sure I'll find the time somewhere."" 15 - ""2:47PM on Saturday it is, then. I'm sure I'll find the time somewhere."
16 - "I'm not a psychopath, I'm just very creative." 16 - "The best Harry had come up with was "I'm not a psychopath, I'm just very creative" and that sounded kind of ominous"
17 - ""You start to see the pattern, hear the rhythm of the world."" 17 - ""You see, Harry, after you've been through a few adventures you tend to catch the hang of these things. You start to see the pattern, hear the rhythm of the world."
18 - ""That does sound like the sort of thing I would do, doesn't it?"" 18 - ""That does sound like the sort of thing I would do, doesn't it?" said Dumbledore, smiling."
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Thanks!
So 1, 2, and 5 are the only chapters where the phrase doesn't appear in the chapter itself. Do those numbers mean anything recognizable?
EDIT: Yeah. 4. 1, 2, 4, and 5. Upvoting for correcting me.
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A) He doesn't need to ask a professor, he can just ask a seventh-year.
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Good point. I'm sticking to B, Quirrell was telling Harry he'd pass it to him on the downlow. Note that he didn't say that the book would be labeled "Memory Charms," just that it would be filed under M.
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Frigideiro was mentioned, though - when he tests his "dark side," his dark side isn't any more powerful with magic.
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Frigideiro was mentioned, though - when he tests his "dark side," his dark side isn't any more powerful with magic.
Yeah, but not precision. That's why it's just feel like a bit of an ass pull -- a "butt snag"? -- and why is the way it's so specific is kind of what sets the alarm off for me.
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Doubtful. That's not a lie Quirrell can sustain: Harry can ask anyone else what the status of memory charms is in the Hogwarts curriculum.
Wizards in general need memory charms to deal with muggles, so that's a plausible reason they aren't seen as Dark by the wizarding community. There are probably strong cultural taboos against using them on other wizards (as opposed to muggles), in the same way there are strong cultural taboos against using cars to run over pedestrians even though that's a power that many teenagers acquire here in the real world.
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Harry can ask anyone else what the status of memory charms is in the Hogwarts curriculum.
I would guess that either
- A) They will be evasive in answering any precocious questions because Quirrell asked them to be evasive about some precocious questions or
- B) Quirrell wasn't telling Harry that wizards are stupid and keep dangerous things in plain sight. He was telling Harry that he'd "pass it to [him] beneath a disguised cover." in the guise of telling him how to learn more about memory charms.
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That... sort of makes sense except that the loop seems overly complex and Harry would try to prevent more misery or something?
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That... sort of makes sense except that the loop seems overly complex and Harry would try to prevent more misery or something?
I don't know what "just complex enough" would look like, so I'm not sure what you mean by overly complex. But I promise I will listen.
It has been established that the past cannot be changed because the universe steps through time once, with all time travel included. Harry cannot change the misery that occurred.
On the other hand, the author has said something to the effect that even if there is an afterlife in HP&tMoR, there is no evidence of one so someone like Harry would not believe in one. Without evidence of an afterlife, Harry can create one that has always existed and contains the minds of many or all people.
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That is a good writing suggestion. I will take it. Thank you.
EDIT: This isn't working when I try it:
"So," Harry said, "you know those really simple Artificial Intelligence programs like ELIZA that are programmed to use words in syntactic English sentences only they don't contain any understanding of what the words mean?"
"Of course," the witch said, her expression deadpan. "I have a dozen of them in my trunk."
"Well, I'm pretty sure my understanding of girls is somewhere around that level."
Makes it fall a bit flat for me compared to the original. Suggested rewrite? Or is it just me?
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"Of course," the witch snarked amiably. "I have a dozen of them in my trunk."
(This revision is meant more as a suggested direction than a suggested destination.)
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Dumbledore gave Harry the rock. Relevant? Or Harry just taking advantage of his resources?
Maybe it really was his father's rock.
Maybe James Potter carried around that specific huge rock, transfigured into something portable, for all the right reasons.
Maybe James even told Dumbledore that if anything every happened to him, Dumbledore should give Harry his cloak, his snitch, and his rock. Dumbles knows that Harry hates Quiddich and the Snitch most of all, so he's holding that one back until he thinks he can present it without it being rejected. The cloak was easy. And he's managed to make Harry carry the rock, so that's got to me making Dead James happy.
I'd suggest that Potters have carried that rock for generations -- for all the right reasons of course -- except that Dumbledore wouldn't ignore heritage like that. He'd call it The Potter Rock or something.