Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 03:27:32AM 2 points [-]

It'd been one of the spells he and Hermione had experimented on, a lifetime ago, so he was able to control it precisely, though it had taken a lot of power to affect that much mass. Hermione's body should now be at almost exactly five degrees Celsius.

I feel like this comes off as a bit of an ass pull. It's the suspicious specificity that does it, I think.

It would be easy to prevent that feeling, if you care to and if it's not just me, with a throwaway line in an earlier chapter.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 02 July 2013 02:50:19AM 15 points [-]

On a side note -

"But what I must actually tell you is that you will find the standard introductory text in the north-northwest stacks of the main Hogwarts library, filed under M."

First, I rather appreciate the comic relief, Eliezer.

... But second, what the heck are Memory Charms doing outside the--

Right. Hogwarts. Crazies. Nevermind.

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 03:24:24AM 7 points [-]

... But second, what the heck are Memory Charms doing outside the--

Right. Hogwarts. Crazies. Nevermind.

Or Quirrell, who has declared his intention to visit the restricted section, is planning to plant the book for Harry's 'benefit.'

Comment author: somervta 02 July 2013 02:49:55AM 5 points [-]

Note that of the italicized parts that appear at the start sporadically throughout the first ~20 chapters, this is now the only one that has not yet appeared later in the story (I went through and checked).

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 03:22:56AM 2 points [-]

When you checked, did you record the chapter with the epigraph and the chapter where the line appeared in the text?

And if you did, would you share it?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 02 July 2013 02:34:39AM 15 points [-]

My issue is that I don't have a good procedure in place for constructive blame: by default, when I blame myself for something mostly what happens is that I rehearse to myself what a terrible person I am without trying to figure out what I could do differently in the future (and then actually making sure that that happens).

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 03:17:44AM 1 point [-]

I used to have this problem a lot more than I do now.

It's possible the change is just the result of the aging chemistry of my body, but I like to think that the thing that turned it around was literally telling myself, "I want to be the kind of person who is cool with having done that." I had to accept the thing that had happened and had to become the kind of person that would accept it.

Or maybe I just had to age. It's possible that's why I don't do a lot of the things I used to find myself unable to stop doing.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 July 2013 02:14:47AM 2 points [-]

The decision I shared, that stirred up so much hostility, wasn't that I was leaving. It's that I wasn't going to tell other people about Less Wrong.

No, what "stirred up so much hostility" was you're suggestion that we censor people for being "unmarketable".

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 03:05:47AM 1 point [-]

No, what "stirred up so much hostility" was you're suggestion that we censor people for being "unmarketable".

Thanks. It's rather obvious once you point it out. Not the first time my self-centeredness has blinded me to the real reason people were cross with me, won't be the last.

Censorship is necessary. The poison that kills your garden and undermines your movement won't always be the new blood or the outsider. Sometimes it will be someone you respect who steps out of bounds.

Comment author: Skeeve 01 July 2013 03:58:08PM 9 points [-]

Edit: I just realized that Harry was probably abused almost every night (or day) for some significant period. There was a time turner involved, and that's why his sleep cycle is off.

I don't know about this, for a couple of reasons.

1) If there was a time turner involved, why do the issues with Harry's sleep schedule persist even after he gets to Hogwarts and gains a time-turner of his own?

2) If someone spent a two-hour period of time abusing Harry and then time-turnering it away every day, wouldn't he get tired two hours early nstead of two hours late? That is to say, wouldn't his sleep cycle appear to be 22 hours instead of 26?

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 03:00:37AM 3 points [-]

If there was a time turner involved, why do the issues with Harry's sleep schedule persist even after he gets to Hogwarts and gains a time-turner of his own?

For the same reason his response persist even when the abuse no longer does: he's been conditioned.

If someone spent a two-hour period of time abusing Harry and then time-turnering it away every day, wouldn't he get tired two hours early nstead of two hours late? That is to say, wouldn't his sleep cycle appear to be 22 hours instead of 26?

It goes the other way. See, while he was being abused for two hours a day that no one else experienced, he was experiencing 26 hour days when everyone else was experiencing 24 hour days. So his body adjusted to that.

Comment author: Dentin 01 July 2013 11:12:00PM 3 points [-]

I can't imagine that Harry, after having been through this event, gives even one iota of a shit about any of those things. When you declare war on the underlying fabric of reality, petty things like dark wizards, magical castles, and star systems really just aren't relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 02:58:30AM *  -1 points [-]

I can't imagine that Harry, after having been through this event, gives even one iota of a shit about any of those things. When you declare war on the underlying fabric of reality, petty things like dark wizards, magical castles, and star systems really just aren't relevant in the grand scheme of things.

If you can read things like, "He may have damaged His Father's Rock." and not realize that it's not to be taken seriously--

Actually, that's an unfair assumption. You might be ignoring the humor intentionally. I don't know to what end you would do so, but that doesn't mean you don't. I'd like to hear how that tool works out for you, if it does much, if you don't mind.

If you are blind to the humorous intent then I don't really have anything to tell you about it that you don't already know. I'm sure that if that were the case that you'd already be aware that people pity you.

Comment author: Dentin 01 July 2013 11:48:46PM 1 point [-]

He only stepped in it because its a hot-button political topic, much like abortion. The chaotic and frankly insane responses to his posts makes me suspect that most of the readers are completely unable to divorce political and gut moral feelings from internal analytical processing.

As an experiment, ask yourself how many dollars a rape is worth, how many dollars should be paid to prevent one. I suspect many of the posters in that thread will simply refuse to give a numerical answer. This is a clear indicator of mindkill.

Comment author: loserthree 02 July 2013 02:53:58AM 1 point [-]

He only stepped in it because its a hot-button political topic, much like abortion.

When someone is controversial for the sake of being controversial, it would be foolish for them to not anticipate consequences like no longer being accepted in mainstream company. Or ever company one or two standard deviations of 'daring' away from the mainstream in some cases.

I get that it take bravery to do this kind of thing. (Or it could take foolishness. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but I wouldn't tell someone who believed to to be so that I had strong reason to believe they were wrong: I don't know the guy.) But being brave isn't a free pass to not deal with the consequences.

And sometimes those consequences mean you aren't able to do as much good (or as much whatever you want) as you otherwise might.

He took that risk in writing it. This site is taking a risk in continuing to associate with him. I am making the choice not to take the risk of reminding anyone not involve in Less Wrong that I read stuff here and sometimes post a trifle bit.

As an experiment, ask yourself how many dollars a rape is worth, how many dollars should be paid to prevent one. I suspect many of the posters in that thread will simply refuse to give a numerical answer. This is a clear indicator of mindkill.

Actually, thinking you can simplify and generalize human behavior down to rules like that is a clear indicator of mindkill.

Let me break it down differently, not like anyone else is going to see this since they're all in the new thread.

  • Person A is hurt because their authority to control sexual access to person B is violated.
  • Person C is hurt because their authority to control sexual access to themselves is violated.

Claiming equivalency between the injury to person A and the injury to person C is very insensitive. Hinting that person A's suffering is greater takes a few steps further. It's kind of dumb, too.

The people I'm talking about don't shy away from rape. They might have, at one point, but one of them was a student to Craig Palmer, who has been rather vilified for writing a frank book on the topic. Yeah, it's an anecdote, but it's in answer to your anecdote for whatever that's worth.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 01 July 2013 08:11:01AM 2 points [-]

I predict that it will be revealed that Quirrell or a closely related entity has been abusing Harry on and off throughout his life, to try and make him into a Dark Lord.

I don't think so. He's not supposed to use magic on Harry, and his attempts to influence him through their link fail as well.

The Defense Professor had tried to send an impulse to retreat, to don the Cloak of Invisibility and flee; but he'd never been able to influence the boy through the resonance, and hadn't succeeded that time either.

Comment author: loserthree 01 July 2013 12:51:31PM 3 points [-]

His inability to influence Harry through the link does not reflect an inability to influence him at all. His influencing the everloving fuck out of Harry in Defense Class.

The part where he can't use magic on Harry is more of a poked hole in this theory, though. I can answer it, of course, but not without raising more questions. I'll think about that one.

Comment author: wedrifid 01 July 2013 03:34:49AM 6 points [-]

You guys really fail on the outreach. I hope that one day each and every one of you that hurts this community in that way understands the role you play in undoing something nice that could have been something beautiful. I admit to being evil, and am unashamed to look forward to your suffering.

Or perhaps in this case we excel at screening.

Comment author: loserthree 01 July 2013 12:40:28PM 0 points [-]

On the contrary, I'm already here. The decision I shared, that stirred up so much hostility, wasn't that I was leaving. It's that I wasn't going to tell other people about Less Wrong.

Only one of the dozen or so people I call friends in meatspace identifies as 'evil.' None of the scores of friendly acquaintances I have do. It's pretty uncommon.

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