Malo

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I’d certainly be interested in hearing about them, though it currently seems pretty unlikely to me that it would make sense for MIRI to pivot to working on such things directly as opposed to encouraging others to do so (to the extent they agree with Nate/EYs view here).

I think this a great comment, and FWIW I agree with, or am at least sympathetic to, most of it.

If you are on an airplane or a train, and you can suddenly work or watch on a real theater screen, that would be a big game. Travel enough and it is well worth paying for that, or it could even enable more travel.

Ben Thompson agrees in a followup (paywalled):

Vision Pro on an Airplane

I tweeted about this, but I think it’s worth including in the Update as a follow-up to last week’s review of the Vision Pro: I used the Vision Pro on an airplane over the weekend, sitting in economy, and it was absolutely incredible. I called it “life-changing” on Twitter, and I don’t think I was being hyperbolic, at least for this specific scenario:

  • The movie watching experience was utterly immersive. When you go into the Apple TV+ or Disney+ theaters, with noise-canceling turned on, you really are transported to a different place entirely.
  • The Mac projection experience was an even bigger deal: my 16″ MacBook Pro is basically unusable in economy, and a 14″ requires being all scrunched up with bad posture to see anything. In this case, though, I could have the lid actually folded towards me (if, say, the person in front of me reclined), while still having a big 4K screen to work on. The Wifi on this flight was particularly good, so I had a basketball game streaming to the side while I worked on the Mac; it was really extraordinary.
  • I mentioned the privacy of using a headset in my review, and that really came through clearly in this use case. It was really freeing to basically be “spread out” as far as my computing and entertainment went and to feel good about the fact I wasn’t bothering anyone else and that no one could see my screen.


 

There is no sign that anyone plans to actually offer MLB or other games in this mode.


NBA seems somewhat bullish.

That may be right but then the claim is wrong. The true claim would be "RSPs seem like a robustly good compromise with people who are more optimistic than me".

IDK man, this seems like nitpicking to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Though I do agree that, on my read, it’s technically more accurate.

My sense here is that Holden is speaking from a place where he considers himself to be among the folks (like you and I) who put significant probability on AI posing a catastrophic/existential risk in the next few years, and “people who have different views from mine” is referring to folks who aren’t in that set.

(Of course, I don’t actually know what Holden meant. This is just what seemed like the natural interpretation to me.) 

And then the claim becomes not really relevant?

Why?

Responsible scaling policies (RSPs) seem like a robustly good compromise with people who have different views from mine

2. It seems like it's empirically wrong based on the strong pushback RSPs received so that at least you shouldn't call it "robustly", unless you mean a kind of modified version that would accommodate the most important parts of the pushback. 

FWIW, my read here was that “people who have different views from mine” was in reference to these sets of people:

  • Some people think that the kinds of risks I’m worried about are far off, farfetched or ridiculous.
  • Some people think such risks might be real and soon, but that we’ll make enough progress on security, alignment, etc. to handle the risks - and indeed, that further scaling is an important enabler of this progress (e.g., a lot of alignment research will work better with more advanced systems).
  • Some people think the risks are real and soon, but might be relatively small, and that it’s therefore more important to focus on things like the U.S. staying ahead of other countries on AI progress.

Our reserves increased substantially in 2021 due to a couple of large crypto donations

At the moment we've got ~$20M.

FWIW, I approached Gretta about starting to help out with comms related stuff at MIRI, i.e., it wasn't Eliezer's idea.

Interesting, I don't think I knew about this post until I clicked on the link in your comment.

Quickly chiming in to add that I can imagine there might be some research we could do that could be more instrumentally useful to comms/policy objectives. Unclear whether it makes sense for us to do anything like that, but it's something I'm tracking.

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