Comment author: Epiphany 05 November 2012 07:14:09AM 3 points [-]
Comment author: matsn 08 November 2012 12:16:17PM *  1 point [-]

I'm not sure what you mean to imply with your comment, but since someone had downvoted lukeprog's quote, I guess at least that person might have taken it to undermine Mencken's words. However, all Mencken is saying is that

p(easy,neat,plausible,wrong) > 0

which in no way contradicts

p(easy,neat,plausible,right) > 0.

Of course the essence of the quote is that a solution's being easy, neat and plausible doesn't imply it's right which often seems to be forgotten in public discourse.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 06 November 2012 07:23:25AM 8 points [-]

This seems to actually underestimate the value of voting, in that it assumes that a vote is only significant if it flips the winner of the election. But as Eliezer wrote:

But a vote for a losing candidate is not "thrown away"; it sends a message to mainstream candidates that you vote, but they have to work harder to appeal to your interest group to get your vote. Readers in non-swing states especially should consider what message they're sending with their vote before voting for any candidate, in any election, that they don't actually like.

Also, rationalists are supposed to win. If we end up doing a fancy expected utility calculation and then neglect voting, all the while supposedly irrational voters ignore all of that and vote for their favored candidates and get them elected while ours lose... then that's, well, losing.

Comment author: matsn 06 November 2012 06:53:17PM *  1 point [-]

I don't think a single vote -- and that's all any voter has -- sends any message. It hardly makes a difference to party A whether party B gets 279451 or 279452 votes.

Comment author: matsn 05 November 2012 09:02:25PM 20 points [-]

Survey completed!