Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 10 April 2013 03:26:02AM *  15 points [-]

Do you want to get more specific about what you mean by "tight feedback loops"? I spent a few years focusing on startup things, and I don't think "tight feedback loops" are a good characterization. It can take a lot of work to figure out whether a startup idea is viable. That's why it's so valuable to gather advance data when possible (hence the lean startup movement). If you want "tight feedback loops", it seems like trying to master some flash game would offer a much better opportunity.

As far as I can tell, what actual entrepreneurs have that wannabee entrepreneurs don't is the ability to translate their ideas in to action. They're bold enough to punch through unendorsed aversions, they're not afraid to make fools of themselves, they don't procrastinate, they actually try stuff out, and they push on without getting easily discouraged. You could think of these skills as being multipliers on rationality... if your ability to act on your ideas is 0, it doesn't matter how good your ideas are and you should focus on improving your ability to act, not improving your ideas. It might help to start distrusting yourself whenever you say "I'll do X" and think "hm... am I really going to do X? What's the first step? When and how am I going to take that step? Why am I not taking it now? If I'm not going to take it now, will I ever take it?" (Relevant.)

BTW, one possible explanation for why some people are able to make good decisions in practice but not in theory could be the near/far thing Robin Hanson likes to bring up.

Lots of people are successful at many things, but that doesn't mean that for any particular person, like Oprah, there will be generalizable insights about success to be gathered from their life. For example, maybe what caused Oprah to skyrocket to billionaire status (instead of being a regular old driven, fairly successful person) was that she came up with a great gimmick. I'm not sure studying her example would provide much insight in to how to be successful for non-talk show people. But if you think it would, there are lots of biographies of famous, successful people you could mine for success insights.

Comment author: matt 07 May 2013 07:09:45AM *  5 points [-]

They're bold enough to punch through unendorsed aversions, they're not afraid to make fools of themselves, they don't procrastinate, they actually try stuff out, and they push on without getting easily discouraged.

For what it's worth, I'm a pretty successful entrepreneur and I'd say this more like:

They manage on the whole to punch through many of their unendorsed aversions (at least the big ones that look like they're getting in the way), they're just as afraid to make fools of themselves as you are but they have ways of making themselves act anyway most of the time, they keep their procrastination under control and manage to spend most of their time working, they actually try stuff out, and they have ways to push through their discouragement when it strikes.

(Your version scans better.)

I'm commenting mostly against a characterisation of this stuff being easy for successful entrepreneurs. If you try something entrepreneurial and find that it's hard, that's not very useful information and it doesn't mean that you're not one of the elect and should give up - it's bloody hard for many successful people, but you can keep working on your own systems until they work (if you try to just keep working I think you'll fail - go meta and work on both what's not working to make it work better and on what is working to get more of it).

Meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

0 matt 22 April 2013 01:34AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

WHEN: 03 May 2013 07:00:00PM (+1000)

WHERE: 491 King Street, West Melbourne VIC 3003, Australia

NOTE: We've moved a stone's throw from our old office. Note the new address.

Practical rationality. This meetup repeats on the 1st Friday of each month and is distinct from our social meetup on the 3rd Friday of each month.

Topic for May: Rationality therapy - bring questions or decisions for the group to help solve http://lesswrongmelbourne.uservoice.com/forums/203428-general/suggestions/3876671-small-groups-rationality-therapy

Discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/melbourne-less-wrong

All welcome from 6:30pm. Call the phone number on the door and I'll let you in.

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Meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

1 matt 24 March 2013 02:20PM

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

WHEN: 05 April 2013 07:00:00PM (+1100)

WHERE: 55 Walsh Street, West Melbourne VIC 3003, Australia

Practical rationality. This meetup repeats on the 1st Friday of each month and is distinct from our social meetup on the 3rd Friday of each month.

Discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/melbourne-less-wrong

All welcome from 6:30pm. Call the phone number on the door and I'll let you in.

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Meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

3 matt 18 February 2013 11:00PM

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

WHEN: 01 March 2013 07:00:00PM (+1100)

WHERE: 55 Walsh Street, West Melbourne VIC 3003, Australia

Practical rationality. This meetup repeats on the 1st Friday of each month and is distinct from our social meetup on the 3rd Friday of each month.

Discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/melbourne-less-wrong

All welcome from 6:30pm. Call the phone number on the door and I'll let you in.

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

In response to The Singularity Wars
Comment author: matt 14 February 2013 09:41:19PM *  18 points [-]

singularity.org, recently acquired after a rather confused and tacky domain-squatter abandoned it

I would not have described the previous owner of singularity.org as a domain squatter. He provided a small amount of relevant info and linked to other relevant organizations. SI/MIRI made more of the domain than he had, but that hardly earns him membership in that pestilential club.

He sold the domain rather than abandoning it, and behaved honestly and reasonably throughout the transaction.

In response to The Singularity Wars
Comment author: ciphergoth 14 February 2013 06:24:53PM 14 points [-]

I feel like the closest kin to MIRI/CFAR outside the existential risk world is the efficient charity world: GiveWell, GWWC, 80,000 Hours, Efficient Animal Activism etc. There's also this: http://gcrinstitute.org/

Comment author: matt 14 February 2013 09:29:34PM 8 points [-]

Meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

1 matt 18 January 2013 01:23AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

WHEN: 01 February 2013 07:00:00PM (+1100)

WHERE: 55 Walsh Street, West Melbourne VIC 3003, Australia

Practical rationality. This meetup repeats on the 1st Friday of each month and is distinct from our social meetup on the 3rd Friday of each month.

Discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/melbourne-less-wrong (we'll discuss an organised activity for the night here, so jump in)

All welcome from 6:30pm. Call the phone number on the door and I'll let you in.

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

Comment author: Maelin 09 January 2013 12:28:45PM 3 points [-]

Bonus incentive: I give a free upvote to every comment that includes an expectation of attending!

Comment author: matt 16 January 2013 04:09:13AM 1 point [-]

I expect to attend.

Comment author: matt 03 January 2013 12:39:03AM *  0 points [-]

Judging by https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/melbourne-less-wrong/2dFTXTJRHZY and posts here (thanks Maelin) it's going to be a quiet one. I'll bring a couple of games in case we don't get critical mass for a raging storm of rational self improvement.

Meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

2 matt 28 December 2012 05:08PM

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

WHEN: 04 January 2013 07:00:00PM (+1100)

WHERE: 55 Walsh St West Melbourne 3003

Practical rationality. This meetup repeats on the 1st Friday of each month and is distinct from our social meetup on the 3rd Friday of each month.

Discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/melbourne-less-wrong

All welcome from 6:30pm. Call the phone number on the door and I'll let you in.

Discussion article for the meetup : Melbourne, practical rationality

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