Comment author: mesaprotector 23 March 2012 02:57:58PM 0 points [-]

I got an averagish 17, which is well down from my score a couple of years ago. At the same time, however, my thinking has become more utilitarian rather than less.

Call it the difference between desire to socialize and desire to eliminate social influence.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 21 March 2012 09:08:53PM 0 points [-]

They don't necessarily correlate, even...you can have intense negative emotions, intense positive emotions, mild positive emotions, etc, anywhere along a two-dimensional continuum.

That still sounds like just one dimension to me. For two dimensions, you would need "mild very positive emotions" (contentment?) and "intense slightly negative emotions" (overpowering nostalgia?).

Social sciences and psychology are like that. It's annoying, but I just kind of ignore it.

That "Downward social comparison" Wikipedia article seemed particularly terrible.

Maybe we can apply the virtue of scholarship in a differentiated fashion depending on the field.

  • For philosophy, psychology, and anything "harder" than that: do scholarship, they frequently experiment or make rigorous arguments.

  • For sociology: spin your own theory, that's all sociologists are doing anyway and your theory doesn't have to sound impressive so you can get tenure.

Comment author: mesaprotector 22 March 2012 06:24:47PM 0 points [-]

That still sounds like just one dimension to me. For two dimensions, you would need "mild very positive emotions" (contentment?) and "intense slightly negative emotions" (overpowering nostalgia?).

One way to get around this is to classify emotions into active and passive (or high- and low- arousal), where, for example, anger would be active/negative, and grief would be passive/negative. Like the emotion diagram I've seen around the internet lately:

Emotion Diagram

That being said, it's still interesting how vague emotional classifications can be.

Comment author: gwern 22 March 2012 06:01:57PM 9 points [-]

Or could precommit: he takes the deal every time, sending something like 100m to charity, saving hundreds of thousands of lives. He unfortunately kills one person and goes to prison for life, but that's still net hundreds of thousands of lives.

(This is too utilitarian for the real Ghandi, of course, who told the Jews to just let Hitler kill them.)

Comment author: mesaprotector 22 March 2012 06:16:34PM 0 points [-]

By the time Gandhi had taken the deal 99 times, though, don't you think he might be less inclined to behave so altruistically? 1%-Gandhi would additionally know that he was on his last chance to become a millionaire, which might help sway him further.

Comment author: mesaprotector 22 March 2012 12:01:20AM 0 points [-]

This reminds me eerily of the Calvinist doctrine of predestination. The money is already there, and making fun of me for two-boxing ain't gonna change anything.

A question - how could Omega be a perfect predictor, if I in fact have a third option - namely leaving without taking either box? This possibility would, in any real-life situation, lead me to two-box. I know this and accept it.

Then there's always the economic argument: If $1000 is a sum of money that matters a great deal to me, I'm two-boxing. Otherwise, I'd prefer to one-box.