A good rationalist exercise is to try to predict what those who do not adopt your position would say in response to your arguments.
What criticisms do you think I will make of the statement:
I also would do away with the Singularity Summit and replace it with more AGI conferences.
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"I also would do away with the Singularity Summit and replace it with more AGI conferences. ?"
"A good rationalist exercise is to try to predict what those who do not adopt your position would say in response to your arguments."
Why bother I was conducting a social experiment? Not to mention you asked for my opinion for some unknown reason so there it is take it or leave it.
If that was true, that still is not the same as his stated reason.
You don't have enough information to state such a thing in such a conclusive manner.
Don't believe me ask EY.
The fact that you have failed to pay attention on this group, or have not read enough, or seen enough, to know this, in no way reflects on me. It in fact is yet another fantastic testament to the "rationality" of the average LW blogger.
I am conducting a social experiment as I already explained. The posts are a performance for effect as part my experiment.
Have you yourself participated in this kind of experiment when it was being performed on you by a stranger on the Internet who used the style and tone that you've adopted here? If so, what payoff did you anticipate for doing so?
"Have you yourself participated in this kind of experiment when it was being performed on you by a stranger on the Internet who used the style and tone that you've adopted here? If so, what payoff did you anticipate for doing so?"
Irrelevant questions, your willingness to participate is not a requisite for the social experiment and your dislike of the profile here was a requisite. Thus I adopted the tone and style needed to achieve the level of dislike required (granted it spiraled down further and faster then I anticipated).
Why did you need to dislike the profile, because it allows me to test a particular aspect of rationality on this group.
mormon2, have you ever read other people on the Internet who write in the style and tone that you've adopted here? Are these people, in your experience, usually writing sense or nonsense? Are they, in your experience, usually worth the time that it takes to read them?
I am conducting a social experiment as I already explained. The posts are a performance for effect as part my experiment.
If you care to debunk the questions I asked please do...
Voted down for misuse of the word 'exemplar'.
You would quickly vote my post down to the point where the only way to find it would be to search my profile for it meaning that the post would go nowhere.
Close, it would show up as '1 comment below threshold', an exemplar of success for the karma system.
"a person or thing serving as a typical example or excellent model"
Dictionary definition of exemplar my use was slightly ironic but accurate. Since I seem to be the token disliked person here. This is evidenced by how you all are voting each other up for bashing me (the quality of bashing though sometimes amusing is really lacking).
Mormon2:
How would you act if you were Eliezer?
Bear in mind that you could either work directly on the problem, or you could try to cause others to work on it. If you think that you could cause an average of 10 smart people to work on the problem for every 6 months you spend writing/blogging, how much of your life would you spend writing/blogging versus direct work on FAI?
"How would you act if you were Eliezer?"
If I made claims of having a TDT I would post the math. I would publish papers. I would be sure I had accomplishments to back up the authority with which I speak. I would not spend a single second blogging about rationality. If I used a blog it would be to discuss the current status of my AI work and to have a select group of intelligent people who could read and comment on it. If I thought FAI was that important I would be spending as much time as possible finding the best people possible to work with and would never resort to a blog to try to attract the right sort of people (I cite LW as evidence of the failure of blogging to attract the right people).
Oh and for the record I would never start a non-profit to do FAI research. I also would do away with the Singularity Summit and replace it with more AGI conferences. I would also do away the most of SIAI's programs and replace them, and the money they cost, with researchers and scientists along with some devoted angel funders.
1.) it can easily be deleted if he doesn't like it
Disregarding the fact that deleting a top level post is as easy as deleting a comment...how do you know this is his reason?
"Disregarding the fact that deleting a top level post is as easy as deleting a comment...how do you know this is his reason?"
Because he has done it in the past.
"it being a top-level post instead of Open Thread comment. Probably would've been a lot more forgiving if it'd been an Open Thread comment. . ."
Since I am already disliked lets just say it, the reason EY would prefer my post in the comments section of an open thread is two-fold: 1.) it can easily be deleted if he doesn't like it 2.) Since I happen to be the exemplar here and most of you guys don't like me (or don't like being unwitting subjects of social experiments). You would quickly vote my post down to the point where the only way to find it would be to search my profile for it meaning that the post would go nowhere.
Since none of you understand what I am doing I will spell it out for you. My posts are formatted, written and styled intentionally for the response I desire.
You are claiming to be a troll?
Maybe read a bit more carefully:
"I just wanted to see if anyone here could actually look past that (being the issues like spelling, grammar and tone etc.), specifically EY, and post some honest answers to the questions"
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I believe it would be greatly informative to mormon2's experimental result if the profile was blocked. Mormon2 could confirm a hypothesis, we would be rid of him: everybody wins!
What anyone does with this profile now that I no longer need it for my social experiment is totally irrelevant to me. You want to continue trying to earn some cheap karma at the expense of some fake personality; that I created for the sole purpose of this social experiment? Fine, go right ahead; you just continue having fun with bashing mormon2. Tell me does that make you feel like a true rationalist? Do you get some sense of pleasure from responding to my posts?
If not try stopping any further responses to my posts and my estimation of you as a rationalist will jump 100% so instead of on a scale of -10 to 10 you being a -10 you will rise to level of -9. I am sure other people here more rational then you would agree that the best course of action is to cease any further responses to any posts I make.
I will let you in on a secret the social experiment is over, but by all means continue suggesting courses of action that make you feel better. I think you are a little bent out-of-shape because you were used and didn't approve of it. Well sorry, but its done get over it.