Comment author: nerzhin 13 May 2011 04:30:36PM 2 points [-]

I'm pretty sure we've talked about similar things before - the closest thing I could find after a quick search is a list of math prerequisites.

A suggestion: to make this concrete, we could identify specific courses on MIT's open coarse project. Then people could actually "get" this degree in some sense.

I'll start with the obvious: Math 18.05, Introduction to Probability and Statistics.

Comment author: nerzhin 12 May 2011 06:48:44PM 5 points [-]

What do you study at Stanford? Why?

Comment author: nerzhin 11 May 2011 08:57:26PM *  1 point [-]

This looks very much like an ultimatum game, with Player A playing the proposer (how much of her $500,000 will she share?) and Player B as the responder (his role is to either accept or decline).

Comment author: SilasBarta 10 May 2011 08:09:39PM *  8 points [-]

Because you don't want to pad your bibliography and give the impression you know more about the topic than you really do. Also, the body may not match the abstract, the body may poorly substantiate its claims in the abstract, you should understand any document you're relying on to make your point, etc.

Why is this controversial?

Edit: In fairness, some people do intend "efficient scholarship" to mean "cite any paper with an abstract that looks like it agrees with you and hope no one asks questions", but I don't think that's what lukeprog means.

Comment author: nerzhin 10 May 2011 08:18:41PM *  4 points [-]

I'm not sure it's controversial, but I disagree very slightly on the margin. All your points are good. However, if

  1. I have already read some papers from an author, and

  2. I trust that their abstracts are honest representations of their work, and

  3. I am not relying on their work as a basis for my own, but just pointing it out to my readers

I will cite it after just reading the abstract.

Comment author: Vladimir_M 10 May 2011 07:02:57AM *  9 points [-]

Thus the barriers to going from knowing nothing about a field to being able to write a publishable paper are actually relatively low in quite a few fields, particularly those where you don't need lab equipment or great mathematical sophistication.

I think your impression is wrong. You are right that in many areas, if you're reasonably smart and have a strong amateur interest, it doesn't take very much time and effort to start asking questions and possibly even generating insight at the same level as accredited scholars. However, in such areas, and in many others as well, the most difficult obstacles are of different sorts.

First, a perfectly clear, logical, honest, and readable account of your work is often ipso facto unpublishable: what is required is writing according to unofficial, tacitly acknowledged rules that are extremely hard to figure out on your own. (If anything, academic publishing is so competitive that unless you have an earth-shattering breakthrough, it is difficult or even impossible to publish without intensely optimizing for passing the actual review and editorial process, rather than following some idealistic criteria of quality.)

Second, of course, there is the factor of brand-names, networking, and patronage. Each publication venue has some minimal status threshold for authors and their affiliation, below which your chances of publication are practically nil no matter what the content of your paper may be. (Again, with the possible hypothetical exception of evident stunning breakthroughs.)

Comment author: nerzhin 10 May 2011 08:08:18PM 2 points [-]

A perfectly clear, logical, honest, and readable account of your work is often ipso facto unpublishable: what is required is writing according to unofficial, tacitly acknowledged rules that are extremely hard to figure out on your own.

This has not been my experience. My experience with journal editors and reviewers has been that they want a clear and readable account, but it probably varies a great deal from field to field.

Your point about brand names and networks, however, is very well taken.

Comment author: SilasBarta 10 May 2011 03:02:46PM 5 points [-]

One thing you should avoid doing is cite an article when you've only read the abstract.

Comment author: nerzhin 10 May 2011 08:01:53PM 1 point [-]

Always? Why?

Comment author: [deleted] 01 May 2011 03:26:33AM *  12 points [-]

I'm not sure this is helpful (or news), but I've been wondering if problems with "natural" social skill aren't due to an underactive System 1, but an overactive System 2. Meaning, most people have normal social capabilities, but exceptionally bright people tend to let their intellect interfere with what might run somewhat normally if it weren't being looked at through an electron microscope.

This doesn't mean that if you were dumber, you'd be "normal-er" (read: mirror people more effectively), but you might fret less about your differences, which could in turn prevent a paralyzing negative feedback loop. I've personally observed that (after high school, at least) people are much more tolerant of my idiosyncrasies than I am... and if I could truly update this belief, I'd in turn be more tolerant of their idiosyncrasies, and so forth.

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Comment author: nerzhin 02 May 2011 05:58:15PM 0 points [-]

This is interesting because my initial response is to disagree, but I don't think I have good reasons or evidence.

To drastically oversimplify: You seem to be saying that intelligence is primary and social skills are learned. You're born smart or dumb, and if you're smart, you over-analyze social situations and become afraid.

My initial reaction is the opposite: Social skills are primary, intelligence is learned. You are born with or without good social skills, and if you don't have them, you read a lot (by yourself) and hack computers or whatever, so that you become smart.

Comment author: Manfred 26 April 2011 02:17:07AM 1 point [-]

2) (xkcd 773)

This may be a little tricky, since it still has to project the "university website" image. A fancy university site at least needs an attention-getting slideshow with the pretty pictures and links to press releases.

Comment author: nerzhin 27 April 2011 12:53:44AM 1 point [-]

Why? Does this attract alumni donations? Prospective students? Why exactly do you have to project the university website image?

Comment author: komponisto 26 April 2011 03:59:08PM 2 points [-]

I don't know if this has anything to do with autism (I'm not autistic), but I would like for schools to allow students to focus on one subject at a time. Instead of four semesters where they have to simultaneously study language, math, science, and history, have one semester devoted exclusively to each of those.

Comment author: nerzhin 27 April 2011 12:50:55AM 2 points [-]

There are several colleges that do this, calling it the block plan. The ones I know of are Cornell College, Colorado College, and Quest University.

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Comment author: a363 19 April 2011 03:46:20PM *  5 points [-]

I've always been interested in how stuff works and I've taken apart or built from scratch a lot of the stuff I've owned. I've built stuff as small as a molecule or as big as a hangglider without even considering asking for expert help - it's just so easy and enjoyable, I can think things through, do research and come to understand something new...

But I've never been interested in how people work. It seems to me it's impossible to understand things that are outside my experience and there's a lot I can never experience for myself, to understand. I've never know how to play or party - it's something I mostly have to pretend to do. People are fundamentally unsolvable to me. Friendship seems primarily a feedback loop, love a temporary form of insanity...

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Comment author: nerzhin 19 April 2011 07:15:25PM 4 points [-]

People are fundamentally unsolvable to me

This might be your point, but the above statement is probably not true.

Not to say it's easy to begin learning to solve people, or even that it's worth it. But it's probably possible.

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