Comment author: kilobug 14 May 2013 10:17:00PM 0 points [-]

I'll be there :)

But are you sure the time is correct ? 10:23PM ? I think you used the date at which you created the event instead ;) Isn't it 2pm like usual ?

Comment author: pangel 16 May 2013 08:54:11PM 1 point [-]

I'll be there as well.

Comment author: gwern 18 December 2012 11:57:44PM 2 points [-]

I took it as meaning that the orbs visited anyone mentioned in a prophecy before the Unspeakables sealed the Hall precisely to prevent people from learning of the prophecy they were in.

If you had to know that a prophecy was made involving you and travel to the Hall of your own volition, that would be essentially useless by Merlin's lights ('because knowing is half the battle!') since the only ones who would know this in advance would be the prophecy hearers and their allies, and what's the point of that? If you were setting up a system to screw with Destiny, you'd arrange for the system to tell all involved automatically!

We know that the glowy orbs are trapped because no one in the story mentions or see them happening: Snape does not mention globes coming to him nor does McGonagall nor anyone else, Voldemort has to be informed by Snape, neither Harry nor Quirrel nor anyone else receive orbs from Trelawney's second cut-off prophecy (perhaps the real reason that Dumbledore doesn't want to take Harry to the Hall), and Dumbledore has to personally take Harry's parents to the Hall to hear their copies.

Comment author: pangel 21 December 2012 06:00:34PM 0 points [-]

Sounds right, but the present-day situation is the same: orbs may float to you if and only if you enter the Hall. So Dumbledore should know whether he is involved in the prophecy or not. Unless I missed something?

Comment author: hairyfigment 18 December 2012 12:38:00AM 2 points [-]

...I have a wildly different interpretation of the text.

Comment author: pangel 18 December 2012 11:47:01PM *  0 points [-]

... a great room of shelves filled with glowing orbs, one after another appearing over the years. (...) Those mentioned within a prophecy would have an glowing orb float to their hand, and then hear the prophet's true voice speaking.

I interpret it as: Anyone who enters this room sees a glowing orb float to their hand for every prophecy that mentions them. How do you interpret it?

Comment author: pangel 17 December 2012 10:37:24PM 5 points [-]

"Those who are spoken of in a prophecy, may listen to that prophecy there. Do you see the implication, Harry?"

Shouldn't Minerva see another implication, that Dumbledore has no reason to wonder whether he is the dark lord of the prophecy?

Comment author: kilobug 21 August 2012 03:33:13PM 0 points [-]

I'll be there :) (but I'm counted in the 4 already)

Comment author: pangel 22 August 2012 11:26:47PM 0 points [-]

Same here.

Comment author: advancedatheist 09 August 2012 03:07:04PM *  6 points [-]

I guess you missed the controversy this article generated a couple years back:

http://www.evidencebasedcryonics.org/is-that-what-love-is-the-hostile-wife-phenomenon-in-cryonics/

I've wondered if we do make a transition to a society where extreme healthy life extension becomes feasible and a part of mainstream medicine whether we'll see a pattern where women on average still choose to die more or less on schedule while men on average choose the longevity treatments. That could work out well for the straight alpha males and the alpha wannabes who value women for sex but not much else, because they would always have new crops of women coming to fruition for their sexual adventures while they forget the dying older ones; but the situation could distress the men who become emotionally involved with the women in their lives, value their companionship and don't want to see these women age and die.

I've noticed that the relatively few women who sign up for cryonics on their own initiative generally don't have, and apparently don't want, children, though I know of a couple of fertility-oriented mom types. One of these motherhood-averse women told me that well before she discovered cryonics and sought out male cryonicists as companions, she had a tubal ligation in her early 20's. (She had a scar in the right place.)

But for the most part the cryonics movement remains a male-dominated social space, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Comment author: pangel 11 August 2012 10:07:37AM *  3 points [-]

Thank you for the link! Note that the .pdf version of the article (which is also referenced in dbaupp's link) has a record of the "hostile-wife" cases over a span of 8 years.

Comment author: gwern 09 August 2012 02:09:46PM *  7 points [-]

She's a woman, so whatever difficulty you are expecting, double or triple it. Women don't like cryonics.

She is not particularly religious, but is concerned with leaving as much money for my grandfather (and later my parents and me) as possible.

Yeah, I'd give up here. Signing up is hard, it's expensive, it's much too late, there's a sure-fire competing desire, and the target is female. The odds of success are, at a minimum, <5% (if you actually try, I'd be happy to record a prediction or bet on it). This will not end well for you. Don't try.

Comment author: pangel 09 August 2012 02:32:59PM 4 points [-]

Women don't like cryonics.

What made you believe this? Is there a pattern to the declared reasons?

Comment author: JoshuaFox 10 July 2012 01:18:43PM *  10 points [-]

50% chance of failing

Except in real life, the #1 signaling college has a graduation rate of 98% and an average Grade Point Average of A-.

As the saying goes, the "only way to flunk out of Harvard is to die of a heroin overdose."

Comment author: pangel 10 July 2012 03:45:10PM 2 points [-]

The fictional college of the article only selects incoming students on price.

Comment author: pangel 22 May 2012 06:33:08PM *  4 points [-]

I had the exact same argument with my girlfriend (a bad idea) a while ago and asked for references to point her to on the IRC channel. I was given The Simple Truth and The Relativity of Wrong.

So I was about to write a very supportive response when I saw Mitchell Porter's comment. And this

(...) the children of post-Christian agnostics grow up to be ideologically aggressive posthuman rationalists.

aptly describes recent interactions I've had with my father¹. The accusation of narrowmindedness was present.

So, recurring conflicts with friends and family because of a newfound perspective on, well, everything? Values quickly changing as a consequence of new beliefs on what is true and what is not? Assuming we are in the they-were-right-this-time subgroup of this cliché, there must be smarter ways of dealing with it than making ourselves look crazy in front of the people who care about us.

¹ Except he's a raging atheist but has never propagated the consequences of this belief to his philosophy.

Comment author: gjm 20 April 2012 08:19:10AM 6 points [-]

stumbled by chance upon the exact same look

Why isn't "EY is making him look like in canon" a sufficient explanation for the look being exactly the same? It would be a rotten explanation within the MoRverse, of course, but within the MoRverse there's no coincidence to need explaining.

Comment author: pangel 20 April 2012 01:21:04PM 6 points [-]

I see your point. As an author I would think I'm misdirecting my readers by doing that though; "Voldemort has the same deformity as in canon? He's been playing with Horcruxes!" is the reasoning I would expect from them. Which is why I would, say, remove Quirrell's turban as soon as my plot had Voldemort not on the back of Quirrell's head.

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