Comment author: ESRogs 12 March 2014 01:20:38AM 1 point [-]

On the other hand after that decade you'll be without money, without a job

Yes, true. It would probably not be a good idea to attempt to retire with only one decade's worth of funds and plan never to work again. On the other hand, you could see how things go for the first 5 years and then go back to work if needed.

The problem is that you're looking specifically at the US stock market

So would you expect a US + international market cap-weighted index fund like Vanguard's Total World Stock Index Fund (bonus: available as an ETF) to have more variance or do worse than the US stock market by itself? That would surprise me.

Or were you just saying you think the US was exceptional during the 20th century, and investors should not expect similar returns (either by diversifying across nations, or reliably picking a winning nation) in the 21st? Hmm, now I am curious what stock market returns looked like for the whole world in the 20th C.

there is the issue of survivorship bias

Unfortunately I wasn't able to determine whether that particular chart took into account survivorship bias, but I did find this blog post written by the author of the book the chart was taken from, suggesting that he's at least familiar with the issue.

Comment author: quanticle 12 March 2014 08:31:54AM 3 points [-]

On the other hand, you could see how things go for the first 5 years and then go back to work if needed.

Will you be allowed back into the labor force? Many employers, especially in the IT industry, will almost certainly turn you away if you have an unexplained hole in your resume that's 5 years wide. Basically the only reason that can cover a 5-year gap is education of some kind (usually something like graduate education). If you say, "Oh, I just retired for 5 years, but now I'm looking for a job again," that's not going to help your chances of landing a job.

Comment author: quanticle 11 March 2014 07:13:02AM 18 points [-]

It depends on what you mean by "job". It seems like you're saying that not having a job is equivalent to not working. I'd argue otherwise. You still do a lot of work. It's just that the work that you're doing doesn't fit into the traditional capitalist view of working for an employer, so you don't see it as a "job".

You bring up a number of examples: the Argentinian who left graduate economics to travel the world. Puneet Sahani. The Uruguayan couple. They don't have jobs in the traditional American sense of working for an employer for money. But I'd argue that their lifestyle is no less arduous than someone who does have a job. They still have to make arrangements for food, clothing, shelter and travel, and presumably they're doing something of value to earn those resources. That's work, even if it isn't a job, as traditionally defined.

Moreover, such a lifestyle requires a certain type of personality. It requires a personality that is willing to accept extreme levels of uncertainty, in some cases to the point of not knowing where one is going to sleep the next night. For that reason, I'd argue that getting a job is the rational decision for most people. It makes sense to trade a certain amount of freedom for the certainty of knowing that when you go home, you'll have a home to go to, with food in the fridge and clothes in the closet. The fact that some people are able to be happy without having that certainty doesn't mean that everyone will be happy in such a lifestyle, or even that you will be happy in such a lifestyle.

A job is truly an instrumental goal, and your terminal goals certainly do have chains of causation leading to them that do not contain a job for 330 days a year.

This is true, but the uncertainty around those other chains of causation is considerably higher than the chains of causation that do involve having a job. Sure, I can scrape by without a job, hitchhiking my way along to where-ever I'm trying to go. Or I can travel with relative certainty in a train or a jetliner with tickets that I purchased with money from my job. Which route you choose depends on your tolerance for uncertainty and risk. I, for one, am glad for my job. It provides me the resources by which I carve out a tiny bubble of relative certainty in an uncertain world.

Comment author: gwern 04 September 2013 05:34:44PM 6 points [-]

I can't even get past the introduction:

  1. your header should not take up an entire screen
  2. "its", not "it's"
  3. you capitalize 'i' when it's a pronoun
  4. you punctuate the end of sentences, even in parenthetical comments
  5. spaces are a Good Thing

You are the reason Paul Graham made that comment.

Comment author: quanticle 04 September 2013 06:48:28PM *  1 point [-]

6. Line breaks should go in between paragraphs, not in between sentences in a paragraph. This is prose, not free verse.

EDIT: Markdown's auto-numbering of lists is infuriating.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 31 May 2013 04:40:31AM 8 points [-]

This may be exactly what you are looking for:Minimal Reading Sequence for Philosophy of Mind and Language

Comment author: quanticle 31 May 2013 05:31:52AM 4 points [-]

That list certainly does look promising. I've read a few things on that list, and I look forward to reading the rest of them. I've also followed the link to Lukeprog's The Best Textbooks on Every Subject, which also has quite a few philosophical texts. Enough, at least, to keep me busy for at least a few months at my current rate of study. Thanks for the pointer.

Comment author: Neotenic 31 May 2013 04:56:20AM *  9 points [-]

You may want to change the title to "Analytic Philosophy" or "Contemporary Philosophy" since Modern Philosophy usually refers to something far removed from anything related to "Good and Real" by Drescher.

Comment author: quanticle 31 May 2013 05:13:00AM 5 points [-]

And that's exactly the sort of advice I'm looking for. I'm at such a low level, I don't even know what the proper name is for the thing I want to study! I've changed the title to "Contemporary philosophy". I think that's better reflects the sort of things I wish to learn more about.

Curriculum suggestions for someone looking to teach themselves contemporary philosophy

7 quanticle 31 May 2013 04:20AM

Hello LessWrong,

I just (finally) finished Good and Real, by Gary Drescher. It was a very stimulating read, and I'd like to continue learning philosophy on my own. However, I'm running into a bootstrapping problem. I don't know what I don't know, and therefore, I don't know where I should get started. I've tried searching the LessWrong archive to see if anyone has made a post outlining a curriculum for someone looking to teach themselves the fundamentals of modern philosophy and logic, but either my Google-fu is weak or no such post exists. So, what should someone who is looking to reduce the inferential distance between themselves and modern philosophical thought read, and in what order?

Or, do you all think this is a quixotic quest that I should give up on?

Comment author: Alicorn 04 September 2012 11:04:50PM 0 points [-]

I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought I might. It seems basically competent, but the writing doesn't propel me along. (The rationalist MLP fic does so propel.)

Comment author: quanticle 05 September 2012 02:30:28AM 0 points [-]

As gwern states in a sibling post, once Littlepip starts assembling her party, the story starts proceeding along nicely. If you've gotten past the introduction of the first two party members, and you still think it's slow, then I'd suggest skipping it.

Ruthless Extrapolation

0 quanticle 13 July 2012 08:51PM

Ruthless Extrapolation

Article Summary: One of the key adaptations of humanity is the ability to see trends, which allows us to anticipate and preemptively adapt to future conditions. However, this ability has its limits. We're very good at seeing first derivatives, but terrible at seeing higher level trends. This leaves us vulnerable to situations where those first derivative trends unexpectedly change. The example used is with energy resources, where our adaptation to continually increasing energy usage leaves us vulnerable to a situation where we no longer have access to ever increasing energy resources.

I have two questions regarding the linked article. First, is there a name for this cognitive bias? The author uses "Ruthless Extrapolation", which I find quite fetching, but I think this is well known enough to have a name already. Secondly, what assumptions do we make that could be described as ruthless extrapolation? It seems to me that many in the Singularity Studies community simply assume that CPU transistor densities will continue to increase indefinitely, which certainly seems to be a case of ruthless extrapolation. What would happen to whole-brain emulation if we woke up tomorrow and found out that the most powerful CPU possible would have a transistor density only two or four times higher than an Ivy Bridge Core i7? 

Comment author: quanticle 11 July 2012 04:22:21AM 4 points [-]

One site that was recommended to me is Trello. It's a very flexible project management/to-do/brainstorming tool. It's organized as a number of boards, each of which has one or more lists or cards. You can move these cards between lists and between boards.

The general workflow I've established is to create a board for each project I'm working on, and have three lists: to-do, doing, and done. As you might suspect, cards start out in the "to-do" list, move to the "doing" list when I start on them and go to the "done" list when I finish. However, the tool, as such, does not force you into any particular workflow. That's an important consideration for me, because I've abandoned other task management software when its theoretical workflow model failed to match my real world needs. Trello is flexible enough to allow me to easily construct my own "pipeline" for tasks, with as many or as few steps as necessary, and have different pipelines for different projects.

Trello is a hosted application. However, they have a fairly easy-to-use export function that exports your boards and cards to a JSON document, so you're free to walk away with your data at any time. They also have an API, which you can use to further automate your task management.

Betrand Russell's Ten Commandments

3 quanticle 06 May 2012 07:52PM

Betrand Russell's Ten Commandments for teachers.

  1. Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.
  2. Do not think it worth while to proceed by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.
  3. Never try to discourage thinking for you are sure to succeed.
  4. When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavour to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.
  5. Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.
  6. Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.
  7. Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.
  8. Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent that in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.
  9. Be scrupulously truthful, even if the truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.
  10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool’s paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness.

I find this to be of use not just for teachers but for rationalists in general. #8, especially, is an especially eloquent formulation of Aumann's Agreement Theorem.

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