Comment author: r_claypool 02 June 2012 08:33:07PM 1 point [-]

To those who know Sam Harris' views on free will, how do they compare to the LW solution?

I'll get around to reading his eBook eventually, but it's not the highest priority in my backlog unless a few people say, "Yeah, read that. It's awesome."

Comment author: r_claypool 27 May 2012 03:02:06AM *  1 point [-]

The Old Testament [...] was busy laying down the death penalty for women who wore men's clothing

But Deuteronomy 22:5 says nothing about the death penalty. It's just an abomination, which presumably means, "You're going to hell, but we won't necessarily stone you."

A better argument would be, "The Old Testament [...] was busy laying down the death penalty for victims of rape."

"If there be a damsel that is a virgin betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them to death with stones; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor's wife: so thou shalt put away the evil from the midst of thee." -- Deuteronomy 22:23-24, ASV

I guess they thought it unlikely that the girl tried to scream or that she was threatened with immediate violence. And if she's not already engaged (28-29), she is forced to marry her rapist without the possibility of divorce.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 15 May 2012 11:56:35PM 6 points [-]

Hm. This... doesn't seem particularly convincing.

Agreed. The actually-written-up-somewhere arguments that I know of can at most move supernaturalism from "only crazy or overly impressionable people would treat it as a live hypothesis" to "otherwise reasonable people who don't obviously appear to have a bottom line could defensibly treat it as a Jamesian live hypothesis". There are arguments that could easily be made that would fix specific failure modes, e.g. some LW folk (including I think Eliezer and lukeprog) mistakenly believe that algorithmic probability theory implies a low prior for supernaturalism, and Randi-style skeptics seem to like fully general explanations/counterarguments too much. But once those basic hurdles are overcome there still seems to be a wide spread of defensible probabilities for supernaturalism based off of solely communicable evidence.

So it sounds like whatever convinced you is incommunicable - something that you know would be unconvincing to anyone else, but which is still enough to convince you despite knowing the alternate conclusions others would come to if informed of it?

Essentially, yes.

Comment author: r_claypool 16 May 2012 10:15:10PM 0 points [-]

LW folk (including I think Eliezer and lukeprog) mistakenly believe that algorithmic probability theory implies a low prior for supernaturalism

As lukeprog says here.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 30 March 2012 08:19:33PM *  0 points [-]

If anyone wants to know what some of the highest voted sequence posts are, send me a personal message. (Sorry, I can't link to the page that computes them without overwhelming the server.)

Comment author: r_claypool 31 March 2012 04:05:45PM 0 points [-]

The older posts seem to have fewer votes. Even posts that I consider mediocre get upwards of 20 votes these days, yet Occam's Razor has only 24 right now.

Comment author: CronoDAS 07 March 2012 12:02:45AM 0 points [-]

/me shrugs

I'd give the argument from evil. If there were a God like the one that Christians worship, the world wouldn't suck as much as it does.

Comment author: r_claypool 07 March 2012 12:41:51AM 1 point [-]
Comment author: novalis 06 March 2012 05:45:05PM 3 points [-]

That's probably equally true the other way around -- that is, most atheist literature makes no sense to Christians.

Comment author: r_claypool 06 March 2012 07:05:37PM 8 points [-]

I talked with more than 20 Christians during my deconversion, and actually, they acted as if the standard skeptical arguments made a lot of sense.

The response was never "no way, that doesn't even make sense." Rather it was, "well of course we might expect God to do X, but Yahweh works in mysterious ways". Another was, "you need to stop trusting your intellect so much and trust God/TheBible/Jesus instead."

Comment author: michaelcurzi 07 February 2012 06:56:11AM 0 points [-]

How long is it? If it's short, I'll take a look.

Comment author: r_claypool 07 February 2012 05:01:18PM 0 points [-]

Good question, about 10 pages. Message me if you are still interested.

Comment author: r_claypool 07 February 2012 04:21:12AM 1 point [-]

I stopped believing in God a few years ago, and - like this tradition - I'm writing an essay to explain how that happened.

I need some constructive, critical feedback on the current draft. Is anyone interested?

Comment author: pjeby 03 February 2012 10:47:41PM *  14 points [-]

Overall, LW rationalists, self-reporting, seem to have a much easier time dealing with wood-burning apostasy than Sam Harris' friends.

Rationality aside, we're collectively younger and have less attachment to our fireplaces, assuming we even have them. it's not really a good measure of our ability to handle discomforting facts.

Comment author: r_claypool 06 February 2012 05:47:21AM *  10 points [-]

A better measure would be evidence that video games are harmful.

Comment author: satt 02 January 2012 04:54:45PM 1 point [-]

I don't have much beef with that guy who killed and ate a few kilograms of a human volunteer he found on the Internet; eating a cow with human smarts that wants to be eaten doesn't seem qualitatively worse.

Comment author: r_claypool 04 January 2012 12:45:53AM 0 points [-]

I would not want that guy in my neighborhood. I want to live around people who will not eat me, even if I go crazy.

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