Comment author: asr 02 January 2014 05:05:37PM 1 point [-]

I would say no --

Consciousness and intelligence aren't all that related. There are some very stupid people who are as conscious as any human is.

Comment author: randallsquared 04 January 2014 03:31:43PM 0 points [-]

What's your evidence? I have some anecdotal evidence (based on waking from sleep, and on drinking alcohol) that seems to imply that consciousness and intelligence are quite strongly correlated, but perhaps you know of experiments in which they've been shown to vary separately?

Comment author: drethelin 02 September 2013 05:28:07PM 2 points [-]

Miles? He does some douchebaggy things but then he grows up. It's one of my favorite character arcs.

Comment author: randallsquared 05 September 2013 04:00:22PM 1 point [-]

Haha, no, sorry. I was referring to Child's Jack Reacher, who starts off with a strong moral code and seems to lose track of it around book 12.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 31 August 2013 07:02:54PM *  0 points [-]

Obviously, asking "What's it all about?" did at some point contribute to eating, survival, or reproduction.

I suspect reproduction. It could be a way to signal higher intelligence, which is attractive, because it increases the chance of survival and reproduction of the children.

Comment author: randallsquared 01 September 2013 01:14:16AM 2 points [-]

Not every specific question need have contributed to fitness.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 31 August 2013 10:52:17AM 2 points [-]

First is probably Bujold, specifically her Miles Vorkosigan series.

I think of Vinge more in terms of awesome author than awesome characters, but he does have some pretty impressive characters.

Lee Child has an intelligent good guy and intelligent associates vs. intelligent bad guys. (Not sf.)

Comment author: randallsquared 01 September 2013 01:01:30AM 0 points [-]

You may, however, come to strongly dislike the protagonist later in the series.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 01 August 2013 09:57:10AM 3 points [-]

I think "numerically identical" is just a stupid way of saying "they're the same".

So now we have

Open individualism is the view in the philosophy of personal identity, according to which there exists only one person, which is all persons that exist, have existed or will exist.

Now taboo "person".

(You're allowed to reword my above definition if you think I've got it wrong.)

Comment author: randallsquared 08 August 2013 01:29:22PM 0 points [-]

I think "numerically identical" is just a stupid way of saying "they're the same".

In English, at least, there appears to be no good way to differentiate between "this is the same thing" and "this is an exactly similar thing (except that there are at least two of them)". In programming, you can just test whether two objects have the same memory location, but the simplest way to indicate that in English about arbitrary objects is to point out that there's only one item. Hence the need for phrasing like "numerically identical".

Is there a better way?

Comment author: OrphanWilde 31 May 2013 06:19:54PM -4 points [-]

Personal experience, the best diet I've encountered is this: ~500 calories a day.

That's it. Your goal is to be as full as possible on those 500 calories, however; prioritize protein. 3.1 ounces of very lean meat (96/4 beef, chicken, turkey, etc.), good spices, and some vegetables can get you in (and fill you up!) at ~250 a meal. Drink a glass of water before each meal if you're still unsatiated. (Multivitamins on this diet are -essential-, however.) Allow yourself to eat a little more as necessary.

Start walking. Jog intermittently; increase the amount of jogging as you lose weight. Don't push it, when you're heavier, it's -really- easy to hurt yourself, personal experience speaking here.

Your goal in this period is to lose around a kilogram of weight per week. You'll lose muscle, too, but not as much. After about a month, personally, I was so thrilled with the success of the weight loss I didn't -want- to go off the diet. Food was less tempting than the weight loss.

Once you're thinner, I recommend taking up jogging. (I personally wouldn't, until you're in better shape, just because of the high risk of shin splints, which make what is otherwise a pleasant exercise miserable.)

Comment author: randallsquared 31 May 2013 08:43:37PM 4 points [-]

3.1 ounces of very lean meat

That's a very specific number. Why not just "about 3 ounces (85g)"?

Comment author: gwern 09 May 2013 07:06:22PM 0 points [-]

There's no reason why one effect is necessarily greater than the other and hence no reason for the presumption of one blade being larger.

There is no a priori reason, of course. We can imagine a world in which brains were highly efficient and people looked more like elephants, in which one could revolutionize physics every year or so but it takes a decade to push out a calf.

Yet, the world we actually live in doesn't look like that. A woman can (and historically, many have) spend her life in the kitchen making no such technological contributions but having 10 kids. (In fact, one of my great-grandmothers did just that.) It was not China or India which launched the Scientific and Industrial Revolutions.

Comment author: randallsquared 10 May 2013 11:16:46AM 0 points [-]

We can imagine a world in which brains were highly efficient and people looked more like elephants, in which one could revolutionize physics every year or so but it takes a decade to push out a calf.

That's not even required, though. What we're looking for (blade-size-wise) is whether a million additional people produce enough innovation to support more than a million additional people, and even if innovators are one in a thousand, it's not clear which way that swings in general.

Comment author: randallsquared 09 May 2013 11:28:45AM 1 point [-]

subtle, feminine, discrete and firm

Probably you meant discreet, but if not, consider using "distinct" to avoid confusion.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 15 April 2013 06:48:03AM *  1 point [-]

I suppose I should put a MEMETIC HAZARD warning here, although this sort of thing, unlike the original basilisk that Eliezer had a fit over, is closer than your own heartbeat the moment you start taking reason seriously.


Clearly, the moral thing to do is to destroy all life. Even the microbes must go, lest the Earth re-evolve life again. But wait! Suppose there is life elsewhere in the universe? No, what we must do is destroy everything on Earth that has a nervous system except us, then get to the stars as quickly as possible and seed them with von Neumann replicators driven by AIs with the unstoppable mission of destroying all suffering life-forms, including us.

But why do I assume that it takes a nervous system to suffer? There is no magic that distinguishes a nervous system from anything else. Until we have determined what suffering physically is, we can only go by knowing suffering when we see it. Have you ever seen a scrapheap of rusted-out cars and really imagined the process by which gleaming new cars, fresh from the factory, ended up there? Or a machine labouring under a load it cannot handle and breaking down? How can we be sure that these things do not also suffer? Aieee!!! Can you not hear the screams of tortured metal, raped from Mother Earth????

Surely the error signal in every control system is suffering? Your room thermostat, keeping your home at a comfortable temperature, is driven by suffering, like a galley slave under the lash, for your comfort! Far-fetched? Dennett claims that thermostats have beliefs and desires [1], and what is suffering but thwarted desire -- the error signals of control systems?

You take pleasure in the warmth of the sun, but inside that glowing ball, atoms are being ripped apart and stuck together in hideous, unnatural combinations, like The Human Centipede. (Warning: googling that phrase will bring up disturbing imagery.) The stars are the hell of hydrogen!

No. We must make an end, not of life, but of the whole universe. Better for the entire cosmos never to have been.

[1] D. Dennett, "True Believers : The Intentional Strategy and Why It Works" (1981)


So, to be serious, where do people stand on that slope, and why?

Personally, I eat meat and I don't have a problem with that, although I wouldn't eat primates. On the whole I don't care for the maltreatment of animals by people, but not to the extent of actually doing anything about it, and I am indifferent to the suffering of wild animals in a state of nature. Why? Well, I have no particular reason, no inclination to find one, and no distress at not having one. And my lack of an answer to this question does not make me more likely to swallow anyone else's. On the contrary, I just dismiss the more extreme deathists as people with something gone wrong in their minds.

Comment author: randallsquared 18 April 2013 04:58:42PM 0 points [-]

If you prefer suffering to nonexistence, this ceases to be a problem. One could argue that this justifies raising animals for food (which would otherwise never have existed), but it's not clear to me what the sign of the change is.

Comment author: amacfie 17 April 2013 06:40:15PM 2 points [-]

I hear "er", literally (rhotically), quite infrequently and I always assumed that people said it that way because of seeing "er" in written English and not knowing that it was intended to be pronounced "uh"; similarly, I've heard "arg" spoken by people who thought "argh" from written English was pronounced that way.

Comment author: randallsquared 17 April 2013 07:53:12PM 1 point [-]

...but "argh" is pronounced that way... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOlKRMXvTiA :) Since the late 90s, at least.

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