Comment author: cultureulterior 16 July 2013 11:25:39PM 5 points [-]

Two points:

  • Did anyone remember to take the "42" envelope, before returning Hermione's effects to her parents?
  • Are Harry's and Hermione's parents allowed to talk to each other?
Comment author: robryk 17 July 2013 09:31:20PM 0 points [-]

I think only Harry knew about it. Besides, it was supposed to be understandable only if the reader figured out it was about dementors.

Comment author: Michelle_Z 04 July 2013 05:03:01PM 8 points [-]

Has anyone else noticed that Quirrell knew James Potter?

"James Potter," said Professor Quirrell, his eyes narrowing. "The boy is not much like James Potter.

Comment author: robryk 04 July 2013 05:16:25PM *  14 points [-]

No, this means that the person Quirrell is pretending to be knew James Potter. So, either Quirrell's image of David Monroe knew James or Quirrell is inserting an inconsistency.

Comment author: aleksiL 04 July 2013 12:39:54PM 1 point [-]

Hmm. How about having someone else die in Hermione's place?

I don't recall offhand if the death burst was recognizable as Hermione, but otherwise it seems doable. Dumbledore said he felt a student die and only realized it was Hermione once he saw her.

You'd need polyjuice for the visual appearance, and either Hermione's presence or a fake Patronus for past-Harry to follow. Hermione is unlikely to go along with the plan willingly sho she'd need to be tricked or incapacitated. Hard to tell which would be easier.

Given the last words, Hermione's doppelganger might need to be complicit with the plan. Easy to accomplish if it was Harry, but I think he's too utilitarian for that. He'd need someone loyal but expendable. Lesath would seem to fit the bill, but I wonder if he'd agree to literally die on Harry's command.

Comment author: robryk 04 July 2013 03:02:14PM 1 point [-]

Hmm. How about having someone else die in Hermione's place?

Either Dumbledore is on it and lied to Harry, or it was a student.

I don't recall offhand if the death burst was recognizable as Hermione, but otherwise it seems doable. Dumbledore said he felt a student die and only realized it was Hermione once he saw her.

Harry seemed to think so, but he was obviously biased by seeing Hermione.

You'd need polyjuice for the visual appearance, (...)

Doesn't it wear off after death?

Lesath would seem to fit the bill (...)

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Overall, this plan requires at least 2 hard things to happen correctly: identical fake magic burst and getting real Hermione there and screaming or Patronus shenanigans. I disbelieve this strongly.

Comment author: Sherincall 03 July 2013 09:31:35AM 0 points [-]

True.

Also, I assume if they saw Tom Riddle or Salazar Slytherin or some other name they consider utterly evil, they'd tell Dumbledore immediately, rather than dismiss it as a bug. Even if they've never heard of Pascal's Mugging, that's just the sane thing to do.

Comment author: robryk 03 July 2013 09:42:35AM 5 points [-]

Do they know who Tom Riddle is/was? I don't remember why they should and in canon it at least isn't common knowledge among students (Ginny didn't recognize the name of the person in the diary).

Comment author: robryk 02 July 2013 11:31:31PM 3 points [-]

Quirrell can feel Harry's emotions. This can partially explain at least some of the cases when he unexpectedly realized what Harry was thinking (for instance, this probably gave him some information during their conversation about Parseltongue). It might be worthwhile to find all cases when they talked and Harry attempted to hide his emotions.

Comment author: ygert 02 July 2013 02:16:29PM 1 point [-]

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Comment author: robryk 02 July 2013 07:47:00PM 1 point [-]

I think that ikrase wants to draw a parallel with the fbegvat ung.

Comment author: elharo 01 July 2013 10:53:48AM *  10 points [-]

I think the simpler "conscious Horcrux inside Harry" theories are ruled out by the sorting hat: "I can tell you that there is definitely nothing like a ghost - mind, intelligence, memory, personality, or feelings - in your scar. Otherwise it would be participating in this conversation, being under my brim."

It is possible that the original, canon Harry has been completely replaced by Voldemort, or that the Horcrux has merged with Harry to form a new single personality. The sorting hat is also explicit that it does not remember previous students such as Tom Riddle as individuals. Therefore it would not notice if HJPEV were in fact Tom Riddle redux. However there's just one person in Harry, not two.

Comment author: robryk 01 July 2013 10:27:36PM 2 points [-]

The hat talked specifically about objects under its brim. Maybe the horcrux is in some other part of Harry?

Comment author: sentientplatypus 01 July 2013 08:04:54AM 0 points [-]

I was thinking it would work as effectively because of the fire weakness thing and Harry shouldn't be magically depleted yet. Also it would be a lot safer than transfiguring sulfuric acid. Although it's possible the troll was enchanted to make it fire resistant and that Harry frankly didn't care whether he was violating the rules of transfiguration, and merely was worried about speed, but I'm inclined to think incendio would be faster.

Comment author: robryk 01 July 2013 08:32:15AM *  2 points [-]

Or maybe it's not a good idea to cast incendio while the tip of your wand is in a very enclosed location (for instance due to gases that you expect to be released).

Or it's maybe that that the transfiguration requires no wand movements (reference: look at the setup used during the partial transfiguration experiment) as opposed to incendio. It's pretty hard to move your wand in some pattern when it's stuck through a troll's eye socket.

Comment author: somervta 30 June 2013 10:41:23PM 11 points [-]

I assumed that it was sarcasm.

Comment author: robryk 30 June 2013 11:05:58PM 5 points [-]

The thought didn't cross my mind and now that you've mentioned it it seems quite obvious. My sarcasm detector must be broken.

Comment author: robryk 30 June 2013 09:50:27PM *  3 points [-]

"So," Harry said, "you know those really simple Artificial Intelligence programs like ELIZA that are programmed to use words in syntactic English sentences only they don't contain any understanding of what the words mean?"

"Of course," said the witch. "I have a dozen of them in my trunk."

Did she mean that she had muggle computer programs? Or did she mean some magical artifacts that work in the same way, or was this just a simple misunderstanding?

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