Comment author: cousin_it 03 October 2013 06:01:44PM *  1 point [-]

Good link, thanks. So Robin knows that zero-sum markets will be "no-trade" in the theoretical limit. Can you explain a little about the mechanism of subsidizing a prediction market? Just give stuff to participants? But then the game stays constant-sum...

Comment author: saturn 03 October 2013 08:35:41PM 0 points [-]

I always assumed it was by selling prediction securities for less than they will ultimately pay out.

Comment author: gwern 25 August 2013 08:29:11PM 1 point [-]

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Comment author: saturn 27 August 2013 04:52:24PM 0 points [-]

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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 06 August 2013 12:41:48PM 0 points [-]

Shannon's bounds mean that you won't see crazy progress in general in data compression.

Comment author: saturn 09 August 2013 03:35:08PM 0 points [-]

Unless you have a model that exactly describes how a given message was generated, its Shannon entropy is not known but estimated... and typically estimated based on the current state of the art in compression algorithms. So unless I misunderstood, this seems like a circular argument.

Comment author: gothgirl420666 13 July 2013 03:00:14PM 2 points [-]

What are the real world scenarios it corresponds to? The only one I know of is the hitchhiker one, which is still pretty fantastic. I'm interested in learning about this.

Comment author: saturn 13 July 2013 07:44:16PM 8 points [-]

Any kind of tragedy of the commons type scenario would qualify.

Comment author: SilasBarta 03 June 2013 12:10:27AM *  0 points [-]

Interesting! I hadn't heard of Shapley Value before.

Regarding voting, let me do a back of the envelope calculation: every voter (that voted the same way) would, by symmetry arguments have contributed equal value. And since Shapley averages over every possible voter subset, and voters would only get credited for those subsets where they are the determining vote (which is proportional to the factorial of the margin of victory I think) then the value each voter (for policy A given two alternatives) contributes is something like:

 RB
----
n MV!

Where n is the number of voters for policy A, RB is relative benefit of policy A compared to B, and MV is the margin of victory. But I think I made a mistake of ome kind somewhere.

Comment author: saturn 03 June 2013 06:18:05AM *  1 point [-]

Since the Shapley value of all players also has to sum to the value of the end result, I think the value of each A voter has to be just RB/n. I'm way out of my depth with the combinatorics here, but here's a paper I found that gives a bit more information than the wikipedia page.

Comment author: elharo 02 June 2013 11:56:30AM 18 points [-]

This commits the fallacy of assigning all of Google's worth to Page and Brin. While they certainly deserve a large share of the credit so too do Craig Silverstein, Jeff Dean, Sanjay Ghemawat, Eric Schmidt, Marissa Mayer, Susan Wojcicki, the original VCs who invested in Google, and at least one hundred thousand other people, probably more.

Anyone know a name for this fallacy? I.e. attributing the entire value of some group or action to a few salient individuals while ignoring the contributions of all the other people involved. This strikes me as a major failure mode in a lot of discussion on LessWrong about effective altruism and life choices. I don't know how to apportion credit and blame to individual people for group actions (and almost all effective actions are group actions). I'm not sure it's even a meaningful question.

Comment author: saturn 02 June 2013 03:24:30PM *  7 points [-]

I don't know how to apportion credit and blame to individual people for group actions (and almost all effective actions are group actions). I'm not sure it's even a meaningful question.

Shapley value is one way to answer this question.

Comment author: saturn 22 May 2013 04:43:28PM 15 points [-]

Does your rational advice differ from the common folk wisdom/cargo culting on this topic? And if so, what was your research process?

Comment author: DanielLC 16 May 2013 03:24:56AM 1 point [-]

You are 10% to 20% likely to die before you enjoy even your first retirement year.

I wonder if there are any death insurance companies, where you give them your retirement savings, and when you retire they pay you money continuously until you die. That way, they can pay you extra to take into account that you might not live that long.

Last, but not least: That person is not even you that much anyway.

The question is how much you care about that person. Does having a worldline connecting you matter regardless of length? Does it matter at all? Do you care about them inversely to their chronological distance to you? There's not a particular rational answer. It's just a question of your values.

Comment author: saturn 16 May 2013 04:10:21AM 1 point [-]

Longevity insurance is available from several insurance companies.

Comment author: TimS 04 March 2013 05:11:14PM *  18 points [-]

What is it about being religious that gives one the more privileged position in love?

Look, sex needs a yes from every partner (at least two total "yes" responses). You're describing a "yes" and a "no." Thus, no sex. In terms of the sex act, it literally doesn't matter why one partner says no.

EDIT: Asking why we privilege "no" over "yes" is . . . let's just say problematic.

In terms of the relationship, I agree with the other commentators that the relationship you've described doesn't seem like it is going anywhere, and thus, has no reason to continue.

Comment author: saturn 04 March 2013 10:03:25PM 2 points [-]

Asking why we privilege "no" over "yes" is . . . let's just say problematic.

I can see that someone who has made it beyond childhood without learning this (perhaps by willfully ignoring the answer) has a problem. But does asking, in itself, create an additional problem?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 February 2013 11:59:40PM 23 points [-]

Holden's analysis seems sensible. To it I would add only two points:

1) Ratchet up your giving each time you get a higher income - at the time the new money is coming in, and before you start thinking about how to spend it. After you get a raise, especially an unexpected raise, is the best time to donate - rather than waiting to think about it at the end of the year.

2) Holden's analysis implies that if you have no income, e.g. as a student, you should wait to donate until later. This strikes me as basically correct but it is really really surprisingly important to give something on a regular basis - and put cognitive effort into efficient altruism / optimal philanthropy / rational charity, to get into that habit as well, even for small amounts.

At the end of every year, for example, you might donate $100 - or even $10, if $100 is too much - after looking over the latest list of efficient charities and doing some thought about where the $100 ($10) will do the most good, for purchasing utilons rather than fuzzies, just as if you were about to give $10,000. If the end of the year is far enough away and you don't have a trustworthy reminder system already set up, you might do that part now, then again a year later or at the end of the year, etc.

If you don't do this part, I would evaluate a surprisingly low chance that you would remember to start giving, and giving efficiently, later in life when you have income.

Comment author: saturn 06 February 2013 11:50:17PM 1 point [-]

You might be able to get the habit-forming effect without "wasting" $100 or $10 by deciding how much you would like to donate in terms of your income and debt, then creating a worksheet for yourself which you dutifully fill out every month, even when you know it will come out to $0.

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