Comment author: Clarity 19 February 2016 11:53:40AM 0 points [-]

We're a humble generation.

Comment author: seuoseo 21 February 2016 10:08:10PM 1 point [-]

It takes humbtion to post here these days (this is a joke, sorry).

Comment author: seuoseo 14 February 2016 09:41:33AM 2 points [-]

Keeping costly promises/contracts after changing into someone who no longer would have agreed to them.

Comment author: EphemeralNight 09 February 2016 02:29:58PM 11 points [-]

Well, first, I'll admit up front that I logged off and metaphorically hid for a day after posting this, so I would not be tempted to engage in a pointless argument in the comments. And yet, I was somehow still too optimistic about what I'd find when I looked.

First point of order, this isn't about me. I've been on this site a while, it should be obvious by now that I have no qualms sharing gooey personal details about myself. So. Stop making it about me. If it was about me, you'd know.

Second point of order, the pronouns assigned to the characters do not matter and I think it says more about you than me that you fixated on that. So. Stop making it about sexism. Perhaps I could have chosen some other combination of genders, but I had hoped that commenters here of all places would be egalitarian enough to see those genders as the placeholders they are.

Third point of order, the parable was never meant to reflect reality. If it seems one-sided, that's because it is. It is meant to reflect a generalized emotional journey that I think is valid for a lot of people, of all sexes and orientations, who are too scared to speak up because they, rightly, expect to get nothing but vitriol for doing so.

Fourthly, if the parable even has a moral, it is about prostitution and modern attitudes towards prostitution and not really anything else. If you think the parable is advocating anything else you don't like, that, again, says more about you than me. I am astounded that I have to explicitly point this out, but there is a difference between not actively helping a person and actively interfering with help reaching a person. So. Stop putting words in my mouth. We should be above that, here.

Comment author: seuoseo 09 February 2016 03:11:04PM 4 points [-]

...oh. I was about to PM you with a personal account from the other side of the story to defend the people I thought you were accusing of not saving you, personally, at a small cost or themselves. I still want to point out that had I read your story in the past, I would have taken it for an accusation of practically murdering someone like the author and tortured myself over it.

Comment author: username2 16 January 2016 10:28:10PM 0 points [-]

Follow up question: has anyone on LessWrong ever actually consulted a psychic for any reason?

Comment author: seuoseo 17 January 2016 01:02:44AM 0 points [-]

I'm technically on LessWrong and my biggest reason was desperation. I could PM you most of their answer if you're curious.

Comment author: ChristianKl 13 January 2016 11:49:31AM 1 point [-]

It would be fun to know of a rationalist's experience

Even conditional on someone having those experiences I find it unlikey that the person would write an reply to a question on LW that posed as the question above.

Comment author: seuoseo 13 January 2016 11:54:50AM 1 point [-]

Thanks for the feedback.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 13 January 2016 11:19:04AM 12 points [-]

Can you think of any good reason to consult any so called psychic?

I can think of a good reason for anything. I ask my brain "conditional upon it being a good idea, what might the situation be?" and the virtual outcome pump effortlessly generates scenarios. A professional fiction writer could produce a flood of them. Try it! For any X whatever, you can come up with answers to the question "what might the world look like, conditional upon X being a good idea?" For extreme X's, I recommend not publishing them. If you find yourself being persuaded by the stories you make up, repeat the exercise for not-X, and learn from this the deceptively persuasive power of stories.

Why consult a psychic? Because I have seen reason to think that this one is the real deal. To humour a friend who believes in this stuff. For entertainment. To expose the psychic as a fraud. To observe and learn from their cold reading technique. To audition them for a stage act. Because they're offering a free consultation and I think, why not? (Don't worry, my virtual outcome pump can generate reasons why not just as easily as reasons why.)

What is the real question here?

Comment author: seuoseo 13 January 2016 11:41:56AM 1 point [-]

You got me, there was no real question. It was all made up for fun. It would be fun to know of a rationalist's experience and interpretation or desire to visit a psychic and whatever unusual circumstances and reasoning led them to it.

Comment author: seuoseo 13 January 2016 09:12:28AM 0 points [-]

Can you think of any good reason to consult any so called psychic?

Comment author: polymathwannabe 06 January 2016 03:11:52PM 0 points [-]

people are reincarnated, without any possibility of remembering their past lives

What does that even mean? What would be the mechanism?

If you have two competing hypotheses which are experimentally undistinguishable, Occam's Razor requires you prefer the hypothesis that makes fewer assumptions. Positing reincarnation adds a lot of rules to the universe which it doesn't really need for it to function the way we already see it function.

Comment author: seuoseo 06 January 2016 08:15:58PM 0 points [-]

Does occam's razor require you to prefer the likelier hypothesis? I don't see why I should act as if the more likely case is definitely true.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 03 January 2016 05:52:10PM *  5 points [-]

In the LW Slack an online test by the Birkbeck University of London for prosopagnosia (face blindness) was posted and some took it. The Test says that 80% is population average and below 60% means possible face-blindness (and I guess 33% means random answers). The results posted in the LW slack show an average below 70% (for 10 values) and the hypothesis was offered that the LW populace in not neuro-typical in this regard. How about verifying this?

Take test test here.

My test result (give percentage points as reported by the test in range 0..100; use 80 if you absolutely don't want to do the test):

ADDED: This test takes about 20min according to its intro and some say that it takes longer (see below).

Submitting...

Comment author: seuoseo 03 January 2016 11:02:00PM 4 points [-]

I got 65%, but don't have the karma to vote.

Comment author: gwern 02 January 2016 02:52:07AM 14 points [-]

And last & least:

  • Charlie Brown Christmas special I had never sat down and watched the famous Peanuts Christmas special in its entirety, and I was surprised to discover how wretched it is, especially watching it back to back with How the Grinch Stole Christmas. The animation is kindergarten-level, which unmistakably loops, and the special is watchable only because the Peanuts style is so minimal (verging on ugly) that it can pretend its extraordinarily low quality is just the Peanuts style at work; the musical theme would be excellent, were it not repeated ad nauseam despite the shortness of the special; characters do not speak in anything but a monotone, and are so poorly characterized it's hard to imagine non-Peanuts fans understanding much of anything about it. And finally, the beloved story itself...

    It struck me, while watching it, that I am not sure I have ever seen a simpler or clearer demonstration of why Nietzsche calls Christianity a slave morality and a transvaluation of earlier master moralities: the message of the special is that Christianity everything which is good, is bad, and all that is bad is good. Charlie Brown is a loser who fails at everything he does in the special: he is unable to enjoy the season, he passive-aggressively is hostile towards Violet (a tactic that in its ill grace & resentment only emphasizes the depth of his loserdom), he fails to either recognize the opportunity of the contest or decorate his house better than his dog can, he is a failure at directing the play and kicked out (rather than made an actor or musician, since of course he would fail at that too), only to fail further at finding a tree. Charlie Brown is a natural-born slave and his inadequacy is manifest to everyone who knows him even slightly; he is not fast, he is not strong, he is not good, he is not smart, he has no special talents - indeed, he cannot even be nice. He is the sort of nebbish who, when he goes bankrupt and shoots some people at his office, his few friends and acquaintances tell the reporters that they're not surprised so much that he did something bad but that he had the guts to do anything at all. This part of the story is where the slave morality enters in: a reading from the Christian gospel inspires him - he may be a failure at everything, he may be a loser, but he has faith in Jesus and his understanding of the true spirit of Christmas as a celebration of Jesus's birth will doubtless be rewarded in the next world, and this faith shores up his psyche and fortifies his denial, to the point where the rest of the children, impressed by his obstinacy and of course their dormant Christian faith, cluster around him to engage in a choral singing of "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing" with Charlie Brown as their leader. "Hark!" is an appropriate choice of Christmas carol, as unlike many of the popular Christmas songs these days like "Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer" or "The 12 Days of Christmas", "Hark!" is focused single-mindedly on the birth of Jesus: it's "peace on earth and mercy mild" because Jesus (the Christ/"new-born king"/"everlasting lord"/"the Godhead"/"incarnate deity"/"Prince of Peace" etc) is born and now ruling the world, and little to do with that being intrinsically good. With individual identity submerged in a group identity subservient to their god, the revaluation of moral values from a modern secular ethos to the Christian slave morality is complete: the last is now first, the low is now high. The End.

Comment author: seuoseo 03 January 2016 08:25:48PM 1 point [-]

This was harsh but interesting. I watched bits of the special for the first time to try to come up with something more charitable. Charlie Brown is depressed and consequentially fails to find anything enjoyable, meaningful and easy. Social interaction obviously suffers too with everyone else being equally clueless about his state of mind and attributing his actions to the wrong causes. But he does realize something's wrong and he voices his desire to find a way to enjoy life. And since he tries different things instead of dismissing them, eventually something clicks with him. The Jesus story makes him feel good the same way the other things make the others feel good. He doesn't analyse the intrinsic value of Christian morality, he jumps on the chance to start having fun. I'd like to see you steelman the story, though.

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