Comment author: syllogism 03 February 2014 09:06:10AM *  7 points [-]

You'd go pretty far just telling the audience the character was unintelligent, by giving them unintelligent status markers. Give them a blue-collar career, and very low academic achievement, while also coming from a stable family and average opportunity.

It's been a while since I watched it, but do you think Ben Affleck's character in Good Will Hunting was rational, but of limited intelligence?

There are scattered examples of this sort of "humble working man, who lives honest and true" throughout fiction.

Comment author: shokwave 03 February 2014 05:04:06PM *  9 points [-]

It's been a while since I watched it, but do you think Ben Affleck's character in Good Will Hunting was rational, but of limited intelligence?

Yep, a pretty good example, I think

Look, you're my best friend so don't take this the wrong way, but if you're still living here in 20 years, still working construction, I'll fuckin' kill ya. Tomorrow, I'm gonna wake up and I'll be fifty, and I'll still be doing this shit. And that's alright, that's fine. But you're sitting on a winning lottery ticket and you're too scared to cash it in, and that's bullshit. Cause I'd do fucking anything to have what you got. Hanging around here is a waste of your time.

So far, so normal, you don't need to be a rationalist to say these sorts of things to make your friend start using their talents.

Every day, I come by your house, and I pick you up. We go out, have a few drinks, a few laughs, it's great. You know what the best part of my day is? It's for about ten seconds, from when I pull up at the curb to when I get to your door. Cause I think maybe I'll get up there and I'll knock on the door and you won't be there. No goodbye, no see-ya-later, no nothing. You just left.

Now this is what it looks like when a rationalist actually believes in something. You actively enjoy imagining your friend's left without a word, a horrible thing for a friend to do - because you knows that your friend starting to use their potential is so important as to drown out even being totally abandoned by them.

strong language

Comment author: shokwave 03 February 2014 04:35:09PM 0 points [-]

Turn your money into time; that is, purchase modafinil.

Comment author: DanielVarga 03 February 2014 02:20:35AM 2 points [-]

Yes. To be exact, not all capitalized words, but all capitalized words that my English spellchecker does not recognize. With all capitalized words the list would start like this:

  • 1523 I
  • 1327 The
  • 558 It
  • 428 If
  • 379 But

Of course the spellchecking method is itself a source of errors. Previous years I never felt like manually correcting these, but checking now it seems like these were the main victims:

  • Graham 43
  • Bacon 20
  • Newton 18
  • Franklin 18
  • Shaw 17
  • Silver 12
  • Pinker 10

Graham is actually number one. I added them to this list, and also to the "Top original authors by karma collected" list. Not retroactively, though, just for 2013.

Comment author: shokwave 03 February 2014 04:18:19PM 4 points [-]

With all capitalized words the list would start like this:

You know that feeling you get when you're coding, and you write something poorly and briefly expect it to Do What You Mean, before being abruptly corrected by the output? I think I just had that feeling at long distance.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 February 2014 01:02:35AM 2 points [-]

16 times Taleb and 13 times Nassim. What's happening hear, is there another Nassim?

Comment author: shokwave 02 February 2014 01:11:09PM 2 points [-]

From looking at the scripts, it appears first and last names (actually, all capitalised words I think) were counted separately ("Neal: 11, Stephenson: 11" and "Munroe: 13, Randall: 11", etc) and first names were handedited out (so that's why both Nassim and Taleb are on the list).

The answer is somewhere between "Nassim Taleb was quoted 16 times, and three of those times the attribution was just 'Taleb'" and "Nassim Taleb was quoted 13 times and was mentioned in three other quotes (since he's a controversial figure)".

Comment author: christopherj 31 January 2014 03:13:49AM 0 points [-]

Whoops, looks like Amanda Knox is guilty again. Of course, the lack of double jeapordy protection in Italy might be an impediment to their extradition request.

Comment author: shokwave 31 January 2014 04:10:28AM 1 point [-]

It better be.

Comment author: Stefan_Schubert 27 January 2014 12:10:29PM *  1 point [-]

Well not really. I think it's a bit unfair to the average physicist to say that he's closer in intelligence to the village idiot than to Einstein, don't you think...? Hence the average phycisist should be much further to the right on your scale. Thus zooming in rather illustrates what I wanted to say - that productivity increases massively beyond a certain level of ability.

Comment author: shokwave 28 January 2014 04:22:33AM *  1 point [-]

I think it's a bit unfair to the average physicist to say that he's closer in intelligence to the village idiot than to Einstein

The average physicist's contribution to physics is closer to the village idiot's contribution than to Einstein's, no?

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 27 January 2014 06:05:17AM 7 points [-]

So how can they both be true? The answer is, obviously, that they are measuring different things.

When I first saw them, I assumed they were measuring the same thing, but your picture was just zoomed in.

Comment author: shokwave 27 January 2014 06:34:32AM *  3 points [-]
Comment author: Lumifer 23 January 2014 04:14:23PM 4 points [-]

You might not agree with self-proclaimed high IQ being a social negative, but most of the world does.

So? Fuck 'em.

Comment author: shokwave 24 January 2014 01:12:15PM 2 points [-]

Excellent in-group signalling but terrible public relations move.

Comment author: ChristianKl 23 January 2014 02:42:15PM 2 points [-]

If you replace "smart" with "used drugs recreationally" you might see my point?

Actually I don't think that rationality (as the CFAR mission) has much to do with using drugs recreationally it does have something to do with being smart. You could have a CFAR that experiments with various mind altering substances to see which of those improve rationality. That's not the CFAR that we have.

I did a lot of QS PR. That means having a 2 hour interview where the journalist might pick 30 seconds of phrases that come on TV. I wouldn't have had any issue in that context of playing into a nerd stereotype. On the other hand I wouldn't have said something that fits QS users into the stereotype of drug users.

Comment author: shokwave 24 January 2014 01:11:26PM 0 points [-]

Fair enough; drug use is a lot more public relations damaging than self-proclaimed high IQ.

Comment author: Emile 21 January 2014 12:05:47PM 0 points [-]

Depends of how loudly you self-proclaim it. It's not as we had a mensa banner on the frontpage or something.

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Comment author: shokwave 23 January 2014 12:34:50PM 2 points [-]

And the same goes for recreational drug-use, no? If it's just in the survey like IQ is and we don't have a banner proclaiming it, the argument that it might make us look bad doesn't hold any water.

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