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Meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day (III)

0 steven0461 09 May 2016 08:10PM

Discussion article for the meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day (III)

WHEN: 15 May 2016 03:00:00PM (-0700)

WHERE: 438 Coleman Ave, San Jose, CA 95110

You're invited to bring whatever you'd like to see at Park Day - balls, frisbees, food, etc. (Also, consider taking measures against the sun.) We'll carry a green blanket so you can recognize us. The idea is to gather outside near the listed address at the park entrance first, but probably walk elsewhere soon. If you can't find us or there's something else, please call me (Steven) at 510-6844565.

Discussion article for the meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day (III)

Meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day (II)

0 steven0461 20 April 2016 06:23AM

Discussion article for the meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day (II)

WHEN: 24 April 2016 03:00:00PM (-0700)

WHERE: 438 Coleman Ave, San Jose, CA 95110

The first Park Day meetup went well, so let's have a second one. You're invited to bring whatever you'd like to see at Park Day - balls, frisbees, food, etc. (Also, consider taking measures against the sun.) We'll carry a green blanket so you can recognize us. The idea is to gather outside near the listed address at the park entrance first, but probably walk elsewhere soon. If you can't find us or there's something else, please call me (Steven) at 510-6844565.

Discussion article for the meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day (II)

Meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day

1 steven0461 30 March 2016 04:39AM

Discussion article for the meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day

WHEN: 03 April 2016 02:00:00PM (-0700)

WHERE: 438 Coleman Ave, San Jose, CA 95110

We thought we'd take advantage of the good weather and have what will hopefully be the first meetup in a series. (There will be at least two people attending.) You're invited to bring whatever you'd like to see at Park Day - balls, frisbees, food, etc. We'll carry a green blanket so you can recognize us. (Or my CFAR bag, if I can find it. If you want to be sure, please check back here later.) The idea is to gather outside near the listed address at the park entrance first, but probably walk elsewhere soon. If you can't find us or there's something else, please call me (Steven) at 510-6844565.

Discussion article for the meetup : San Jose Meetup: Park Day

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 08 July 2014 08:29:00AM *  30 points [-]

If someone wants to describe LW as cultish, they can take any parody of itself and present it as further evidence for their claims.

I think something like this has already happened with the Chuck-Norris-like list of Yudkowsky facts; the "Bayesian conspirator" illustration of the beisutsukai stories; and the redacted lecture screenshot that displayed "Eliezer Yudkowsky" on the right end of the intelligence scale. -- Instead of "they are cool people who can make fun" they can be spinned into "this is what those people seriously believe / this is how much they are obsessed with themselves... they must be truly insane". See RationalWiki:

That Eliezer Yudkowsky Facts page is the most disturbing thing I have read in my life. I don't need a shower, I need the outer layer of my skin peeled off. (...) It is fanboyism at a disturbing level. (...) he is hosting this shit on his website that disturbs me

On the other hand, if someone wants to describe LW as cultish, they could also use lack of parodies, or whatever else as an evidence. Once you are charged with being a witch, there is not much you could successfully say in your defense.

So at the end, perhaps we should ignore all such considerations (which, by the way, is what most non-cults do) and simply upvote or downvote things only by their own merit. Also, any attempts for this kind of PR automatically destroys themselves if it is easy to provide a link to the discussion about the PR. (And LW being LW, such discussion will almost certainly happen.)

Comment author: steven0461 08 July 2014 10:43:52AM 0 points [-]

I'd still be happy to remove the EY facts post, although I've been hesitant to do so because it would affect many other people's comments and hiding things might itself be construed as sinister. (I guess your point is that it doesn't matter, but I thought I'd mention it.)

Comment author: steven0461 07 May 2014 02:39:54AM *  4 points [-]

MIRI is now in a close race for the prize for the most total unique donors over the 24 hours, which adds a lot of additional value to $10 donations by people who haven't donated yet.

Comment author: malo 06 May 2014 10:08:26AM 2 points [-]

We didn't win the 12 pm hour, but we won the 1 am hour! We also won the 408 prize of $2,500!

We have a live blog setup here, and a live feed of “the war room” at MIRI.

Comment author: steven0461 06 May 2014 10:27:22AM *  1 point [-]

(MIRI lost the third hour despite being comfortably on top of the leaderboard: what matters is the increase over the last hour, so at this point the leaderboard is probably misleading as an indicator of how close things are.)

Comment author: steven0461 06 May 2014 08:37:01AM *  3 points [-]

The leaderboards for most unique donors seem pretty close between MIRI and the next contender, so additional $10 donations may be getting unusual value per dollar right now. (The first hour was close between MIRI and a different organization with both having something like 34 unique donors, so in that sort of situation, if the highest number wins, the expected value to MIRI of a donation might be on the rough order of $100.)

In response to Meetup : Amsterdam
Comment author: steven0461 21 November 2013 01:15:36PM *  1 point [-]

I've edited the post to include a meetup location: the Starbucks on the Oosterdokseiland just east of Amsterdam Central Station. Hope to see you guys there!

Meetup : Amsterdam

4 steven0461 12 November 2013 09:12AM

Discussion article for the meetup : Amsterdam

WHEN: 23 November 2013 02:00:00PM (+0100)

WHERE: Oosterdokseiland 4, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Let's have a Netherlands LessWrong meetup on Saturday the 23rd. We're meeting in the Starbucks / "East Dock Lounge" on the Oosterdokseiland next to Amsterdam's Central Station. (The building is new and not yet pictured on Google Maps, but I've verified that it exists in the territory. Note that there's also a Starbucks in the station itself; that isn't where we're meeting.)

I'll bring a sign that says "LW". You can reach me at 0611431304.

Discussion article for the meetup : Amsterdam

Comment author: steven0461 18 July 2013 03:21:46AM 2 points [-]

Black-Box Metaphilosophical AI is also risky, because it's hard to test/debug something that you don't understand.

On the other hand, to the extent that our uncertainty about whether different BBMAI designs do philosophy correctly is independent, we can build multiple ones and see what outputs they agree on. (Or a design could do this internally, achieving the same effect.)

it's unclear why such an AI won't cause disaster in the time period before it achieves philosophical competence.

This seems to be an argument for building a hybrid of what you call metaphilosophical and normative AIs, where the normative part "only" needs to be reliable enough to prevent initial disaster, and the metaphilosophical part can take over afterward.

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