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Comment author: taryneast 10 February 2017 08:57:48AM 0 points [-]

So... did this eventuate? What were your learnings? Is it still going?

Comment author: thomblake 10 September 2010 09:26:47PM 28 points [-]

Scott's recommendations seem in-line with a lot of the training upper-class sorts used to get as a matter of course, even in schools (as I understand it, 'nobility' and the uber-rich still get it). It seems like it's about time this sort of thing is getting to the masses.

It seems like the discussion taking place on Lw is not out-of-line, as it seems to relate to an important aspect of instrumental rationality, so long as most of the discussion is coming from a solid empirical foundation.

It could fork off Lw if someone wants to provide the hosting. If so, a name like "Less Socially Wrong" or "Less Awkward" seems called-for.

Comment author: taryneast 10 February 2017 08:34:11AM 0 points [-]

"finishing school" for rationalists... :)

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Comment author: jonathanclester 11 February 2012 09:51:24PM 1 point [-]

So, if you do not have health insurance, how do you get around the health insurance requirement needed before applying for the work visa?

Comment author: taryneast 09 February 2017 09:40:00AM *  1 point [-]

Googling briefly...


You get yourself private health insurance here. Unlike the USA where employers tend to pay for it... it is normal and expected that ordinary private individuals on normal salaries pay for their own private health insurance.

it is NOWHERE NEAR as expensive as in the USA. I'm currently 41 and pregnant, with some (small) existing issues and I pay around $140 a month for "hospital and extras" cover - which I've used.

For somebody young and willing to have just the bare essentials, it would be much less than that...

don't forget that our government healthcare is exceptional and cheaper that the US even when you have to pay full price. We don't have the horrific "pay $100 for a tablet of acetomenophin" style BS you regularly find in the US

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Comment author: thomblake 13 February 2012 06:31:39PM 5 points [-]

Welcome to Less Wrong!

Please employ paragraph breaks. The above comment is very difficult to read.

$ 4500 a year on a ...get this....$500 Pontiac Sunbird!

Yes, the compulsory insurance is generally liability - it has nothing to do with how much damage you can do to your own car. It is rather protecting against the cost of injuries and damage you can cause to others with the car.

Comment author: taryneast 09 February 2017 09:31:42AM 0 points [-]

We have similar compulsory Insurance here in Aus too... it's called "third party insurance" (or your Green slip) You pay it as the same time as you pay your registration. It costs nowhere near that amount, even for new drivers. I currently pay around $600 a year but I'm female and 40 years old. I have not been driving for that many years though.

A quick online google shows me that if I were Male and 23 years old.. the same insurance would cost $890 - even for a driver with 1 year of driving experience.

In response to comment by Louie on Optimal Employment
Comment author: internety 01 February 2011 02:19:29AM 11 points [-]

"the plan that lets you save money in the US is a life-engulfing minefield of time-consuming bargin-hunting, self-denial, and tax evasion."

I work as a software developer in the US, have never made a 'budget' for myself or tried to analyze my finaces before now, I pay taxes normally, eat out often, and have no trouble saving lots of money. I'm going to substitute my expenses and pretend I only make 100k and see how much I'd still be able to save (living in Seattle).

Rent: 16.8k instead of 23.2k Utilities: 2k instead of 7k (how can you spend 7k on utilities if you're a single person in an apartment?) Misc house expenses: 0.5k instead of 6.8k (what are these misc expenses that other people supposedly spend so much on?) Food: The estimate of 13.3k is reasonable for food, although it's easy to spend a lot less without hardship. Transportation: 4.6k instead of 16.5k (who spends 16.5k per year on transportation? Just don't buy a new BMW every 5 years and you should be set. I bought my car for $9k, 5 years ago).

Apparently it's pretty easy live well in a large US city and save 33.9k per year without really paying attention to your finances. If you're a good software developer you should be able to make a lot more than 100k and therefore save much more per year.

Comment author: taryneast 09 February 2017 04:46:20AM 0 points [-]

I spent $5800 on utilities last year... it happens when you live in an area that simultaneously gets below freezing point (and thus you need to spend on heating) and also gets above comfortable living point (and thus you need to spend on fans or air-con). I'm pretty reasonably frugal on both... I don't set the aircon super low, I don't set the heating on high... but utilities are pricey. I also count "internet" as a utility. When I lived in a warmer climate I spent $2800

"Misc house expenses" include things like fixing a broken toilet... or other general repairs. If you're renting you may not have to pay that. Or maybe you do if your landlord is dodgy.

I spent around $8K on "transport" - which includes car payments (I bought a new but small hatchback 3 years ago = $22k), fuel, insurance, repairs, servicing and parking costs. I can well imagine that a family with more than one person (and thus more than one car) easily pays twice as much as me.

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Comment author: Psy-Kosh 22 September 2011 01:04:07AM 2 points [-]

A couple possibilities (I'm not yet fully decided). May do at least part of the time what the OP (Louie) did. At least part of the time will be staying with a friend in Adelaide (so, even though not explicitly heavily subsidized housing costs, the housing costs will be shared/divided) so depending what work was available there nearby at the time, that would affect things. Possibly some of the time doing harvest work/grape vine training/etc. (the grape vine training thing was actually suggested by my friend).

But I had to submit the visa application right away because in october I hit the age cutoff.

Comment author: taryneast 09 February 2017 04:02:14AM 0 points [-]

So... how did this go? (Note: for all I know I've met you in person... I'm not good with names/pseudonym matching) :D

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 31 January 2011 09:05:25PM 6 points [-]

Huh. Actually, reading through this I'm actually considering it. Will need to research it a bit more, but it's definitely something for me to look at.

Though I am concerned about what knb noted re tax laws and such.

(There is also, as far as longer term concerns, the issue of "distance to nearest cryo group"/"how quickly they can get to you if needed before it's too late")

Comment author: taryneast 09 February 2017 03:59:31AM 0 points [-]

I'm coming in late to this discussion but... The nearest cryo group will be located in South East Australia... if you have a medical emergency, you'll be evacced to Adelaide - which isn't that far away.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 26 November 2016 09:55:54PM 1 point [-]

Lets poll. Which do you think captures it best?


Comment author: taryneast 27 November 2016 12:58:42AM 1 point [-]

Rational self-care

Comment author: handoflixue 17 October 2012 09:40:06PM 4 points [-]

I like to think of it as purchasing "the experience of shopping", and it's quite pleasant for me. I just avoid bringing home anything that would be problematic to own :)

Comment author: taryneast 17 November 2016 12:17:12AM 1 point [-]

Agreed. My own epiphany of shopping came to me when I realised I could treat shops like art-galleries... containing many beautiful things that I could look at all day - but was under no obligation to actually buy and take home.

Comment author: Morgrim 14 May 2016 08:19:40AM 6 points [-]

When I was doing the survey I found the 'Highest Education Credential Earning' question difficult because the credentials listed don't match those in my home country, Australia. For example, we have a system of "technical certificates" that fall in between High School and Bachelor's degrees. (I think I chose '2 year degree' as the closest approximation, even though mine only took 1 year to complete.) And I know that doing a Bachelors in some areas is the functional equivalent of doing a Masters in others.

Would a question asking for how many years of post-schooling study one has completed be more or less useful? The wording could be tricky, since then there is ambiguity about whether to list time spent if one is part way through a qualification. If the majority of respondents are from places that match the listed options then mucking about with the question may not be of much value either.

Comment author: taryneast 08 August 2016 06:05:48AM 0 points [-]

I have exactly the same problem because I did an honours-year... which is halfway between a Bachelor's and a Masters.

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