Comment author: DanielLC 14 July 2014 05:19:27AM 13 points [-]

I finally finished a computer program I'm writing for my Master's project. Granted, it's the bare minimum for what I'll call complete, but it's good enough for me to leave it until I finish the paperwork, and just finish if I have time left.

The program is designed to draw differential geometry from the inside. I modified it for raytracing, and produced these two videos:

The camera moves through a wormhole while spinning around

The camera moves in an infinite loop between two wormholes

Comment author: tgb 14 July 2014 04:05:41PM 0 points [-]

Neat! Can you give a really short description of why this is useful or of the most interesting techincal aspects?

Actually, can you just tell me what's going on in the second movie where the grid appears to stop growing closer?

Comment author: [deleted] 10 July 2014 07:20:00AM 2 points [-]

Why? Most of human evolution happened when it was colder than today, whereas much of human agricultural civilization happened when it was warmer (1, 2).

Comment author: tgb 10 July 2014 11:38:43AM 3 points [-]

It's likely that a disproportionate account of optimization of human welfare has occurred in the last few centuries. Moreover people are mobile and the variation in temperatures over the surface of the earth is greater than over a few thousand years. So humans are likely to have optimized their location to approximately optimize their welfare.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 10 June 2014 02:50:26PM *  2 points [-]

Point 3, "properly motivated".

Comment author: tgb 11 June 2014 03:01:20PM 1 point [-]

Yup, I really missed that. Whoops.

Comment author: tgb 10 June 2014 02:38:56PM 1 point [-]

So long as the bots are easy to distinguish from humans, it'll be easy for competitions to produce false positives: all it takes is for the judges to want to see the bot win, at least kind of. If you want a real challenge, you'd better reward the judges significantly for correctly distinguishing human from AI.

Comment author: gwern 10 June 2014 12:57:16AM 13 points [-]

This is the universe's occasional reminder to you that you should be keeping backups of your files: https://plus.google.com/103530621949492999968/posts/cpydtJGE5e6

Comment author: tgb 10 June 2014 02:26:12PM 0 points [-]

Another reason: ransomware!

Comment author: Morendil 09 June 2014 12:26:52PM 8 points [-]

I've read one transcript of a judge conversation. What I find striking is that the judge seems to be doing their best to be fooled! Of course, no one wants to get a 13 year old upset.

In a Turing Test situation I'd start by trying a bunch of Winograd Schemas.

Comment author: tgb 10 June 2014 02:19:58PM 2 points [-]

I don't think that was a judge conversation. That was just someone using the online chat program:

"I logged on to what I think is the Goostman program. Here’s the transcript of our conversation: (Eugene is supposed to be around 13 years old.)"

Not only that, but it's an old version from a year ago. (Not that I think the real judges' conversation would be significantly better.)

In response to Links!
Comment author: NoSuchPlace 05 June 2014 01:26:44PM 19 points [-]

A 2 minute youtube video

I'm not going to explain what it is because that would ruin the video.

Also since explaining the video ruins it, here is a link to rot13

In response to comment by NoSuchPlace on Links!
Comment author: tgb 05 June 2014 03:35:21PM 0 points [-]

The number of times I've read an article about something like this that gives it away in the title or opening before giving the reader a chance to experience it for themselves... thanks for not explaining.

Comment author: gwern 01 June 2014 07:14:40PM 11 points [-]

Medicine:

Economics:

Politics:

Psychology:

Philosophy:

Literature:

Comment author: tgb 01 June 2014 09:59:59PM 0 points [-]

Thanks for filling up my Pocket queue!

Comment author: Metus 27 May 2014 04:44:36PM 2 points [-]

As I am not a citizen of the US, I have no idea what the exact makeup is of the SAT, so I have to keep guessing. I take the contrary position for the sake of argument.

As far as the SAT measures knowledge it would be very surprising to see no effect of learning. What we are examining though is the effect of additional test preparation beyond the usual curriculum. So I would argue that the marginal benefit of additional preparation is extremely low as all the necessary knowledge is conferred by the usual curriculum - especially by the students considering taking the SAT and taking additional care to ace them.

I seem to recall that SAT and g are highly correlated. Insofar as the SAT is a g-heavy IQ test I am not at all surprised that additional preparation confers virtually no advantage, just as we know of no way to reliably increase g. Insofar the SAT measures ability like geometry it would be surprising if learning those subjects gives no benefit as long as the required knowledge goes beyond what is already taught in high school.

Comment author: tgb 28 May 2014 06:32:18PM *  0 points [-]

While a good point, the OP's link says that:

  • There is only a moderate correlation between income and taking of test prep
  • Under-performing minorities are more likely to take test prep than whites

In other words, quite a few people taking test prep are ones likely to be going to poor, under-performing school systems. Either test prep companies are incompetent or our school system is doing a lot better than I had expected, even on the low end!

Comment author: Metus 27 May 2014 03:12:39PM *  4 points [-]

I am just throwing out a few thoughts here though this example can serve as an excellent case study.

The first is availability and selection bias. It is only the students that actually get an apparent benefit that come to your mind as examples and it is only the students that actually get a benefit from learning that will continue to do so. Why learn even more when through testing you see that there is virtually no benefit?

Another effect is that repeatedly testing on the SAT may be the only part of the intervention actually having an effect. This might be through gaining confidence in test taking and/or reducing test anxiety. Also there might be some weird psychological effect going on where people subconsciously do worse until they receive tutoring to justify the expense.

And a last thing is status quo bias. For any piece of evidence that says that conventional wisdom is wrong, people will tend to disregard the evidence and this shows as an apparent chasm. That is why I personally tend to dislike the sentence "The burden of proof is on you.".

Comment author: tgb 27 May 2014 03:53:00PM 6 points [-]

I like your points, but it does seem awfully surprising that there would not be an improvement on, for example, the reading section which has a number of questions that are little more than vocabulary tests. Vocabulary is easy to study and if you don't know it you have little chance of figuring it out.

Or for the math section, someone who hasn't taken geometry before will do very poorly on any geometry questions on the test. (I think this is an unobjectionable claim.) So it would be surprising if people who studied geometry at all suddenly get all the possible benefit of studying - studying doesn't seem like it should be a binary thing where you hop from no knowledge/poor performance to full knowledge/as-good-as-you-could-get performance.

Note that the two articles cited by the OP's link are not randomized controlled trials and are both actually based off the same survey data.

I, too, join the OP in confusion and mild skepticism of the research.

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