Online Optimal Philanthropy Meeting

4 theduffman 28 October 2012 07:31AM

Update: The meeting will occur at 1.30pm Australian Eastern Daylights Savings time on Tuesday, November 6, 2012 in Australia (Monday evening in the Americas) on Google+ Hangouts.

Topics will include how to make near mode progress on far mode problems, the potential for cascades, cycles and recursive loops eg AI and idea propagation to dominate effective altruistic concern. Also, theories and plans can be proposed by all participants.

 

Why meet online?

Lots of us want to improve the world. By donating, performing rationality training, inspiring one and other and so on. 

We're all in a state of limited information regarding how to best help. In hotspots for effective altruism like San Francisco and Oxford, effective altruists (EAs) are able to get high quality feedback on their ideas. But elsewhere, constructive,  creative input is of limited supply.

Face-to-face meetups have so far been organised by The High Impact NetworkGiving What We Can and these clearly allow members to complement one and others' knowledge, skills and resources (time, funding, etc), while boosting each others' determination.

One would expect online meetups to offer qualitatively similar benefits. The comparative advantage of online EA meetups could be:

1. helping experienced EAs to share the most up-to-date information and ideas quickly between geographically disparate meetups.

2. to inspire otherwise isolated EAs

3. to explore the utility of online video and other technology for spreading EA knowledge and skills.

 

Sounds good. How can I help?

I have written a draft task-list including an agenda here. http://checkvist.com/checklists/153407-online-optimal-philanthropy-meeting. I encourage you to email me for access before the meetup itself.

I have created a Whenisgood time chart here. Please use it to indicate when you are available to meet. 

 

When?

At 1.30pm Melbourne Australian time on Google+ Hangouts. Do add me to your circles and expect an invite.

 

See you then.

- Theduffman | THINK Melbourne organiser | former Felicifia admin

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 13 October 2012 04:29:38PM *  4 points [-]

Good idea. I just created a torrent file. I̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶u̶n̶c̶o̶m̶p̶r̶e̶s̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶p̶i̶c̶k̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶P̶D̶F̶'̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶l̶o̶a̶d̶,̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶l̶o̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶l̶i̶b̶r̶a̶r̶y̶. (It's now a compressed zip file; see update below.) Here's the magnet URI:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1D845DB543FFF3DE83B66FAA595F1A3D9F42ED42&dn=Library.zip&tr=udp%3a//tracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80/announce

Please note that many (~40%) of the books and articles included here were given to me by several different friends over the past few years. So although the stuff you own does say a lot about you, I'd like to ask those who decide to download this material to kindly abstain from making any strong inferences (flattering or unflattering) about me from the list of items in my library. ;-)

I hope to keep seeding indefinitely, but I can't guarantee this for the long term. So please seed, too, if you can.

One final thing: if you have a large library of files yourself, please consider sharing it with us!

UPDATE: the torrent became corrupted when I added new files to the directory (which I do regularly, since my library is constantly expanding). So I created a new torrent with a zipped file of the library at its current state. You won't be able to pick which pdfs to download, but at least the torrent will not become corrupted again. The magnet URI changed, so make sure you have the updated version, posted above.

2nd UPDATE: there are now two separate torrents; see here for details.

Comment author: theduffman 28 October 2012 06:23:06AM *  1 point [-]

Could you please resume seeding this library so that I can download it and help? This seems potentially useful.

Comment author: Kawoomba 28 October 2012 05:32:54AM 18 points [-]

You're discounting the case where precisely because it fits the narrative, it is effective.

Getting coffee and building the narrative of "I'm a Hard Worker who will now do his Hard Work with Focus and Determination, look at me getting ready with coffee" is priming yourself for that hard work, the narrative is part of your motivational structure and embellishes your Focus and Determination.

Being too aware of "it's only plain old me, whether in a uniform, or in an office, or at Starbucks" is needlessly sabotaging an often effective placebo-like effect that relies on your internal narrative.

Epistemologically useful, possibly, but contraindicated as an instrumentally useful habit.

Comment author: theduffman 28 October 2012 06:15:04AM 8 points [-]

As with most (?all) biases, the key seems to be to notice the bounds of its usefulness.

Having a normal human amount of faith in narratives is useful for making conversation and probably for motivating oneself, but not for (?most) planning.

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