Comment author: Lumifer 08 December 2015 05:56:53PM *  1 point [-]

Funny how I never receive letters from charities which inquire after my life and family and then stop. One might think that if they were "genuinely interested" they might express it in some way which does not involve "Please give us money, the more the better".

Comment author: tog 11 December 2015 06:11:45AM 0 points [-]

These aren't letters from charities, asking for your money for themselves (even if they then spend some or most or all of it on others). If you get a stock letter signed by the president of Charity X, who you don't know, saying they hope your family is well, that's quite different.

Comment author: ESRogs 07 December 2015 10:05:00PM 0 points [-]

Is there a deadline for when the survey will close?

Comment author: tog 08 December 2015 04:42:44PM 2 points [-]

Yep - we were thinking Dec 31st, but we've now decided to make it Jan 31st as some student EA groups have said they'd like to share it in their newsletters after students return from the holidays.

Comment author: Mac 02 December 2015 11:37:25PM 1 point [-]

I pose the question: how much bullshit eliminates one WALY?

Maybe an example is better.

Would you send out an annoying and obvious template email to all your friends and family if your favorite charity received $10 for every email sent?

Submitting...

Comment author: tog 08 December 2015 04:40:39PM -1 points [-]

I think it's possible to send versions of these emails which aren't annoying. I've sent a bunch myself and people haven't seemed to find them annoying.

Comment author: Lumifer 02 December 2015 03:56:46PM 3 points [-]

“Hi [Person A]!

How are things? How are your kids doing? Over here, things are going really well. I just came back from a trip to Chicago, which was surprisingly beautiful and very cold. It snowed! The buildings were gorgeous and ornate though. It felt like I’d come to a steampunk city. [Note: start with something personal]

I don't like such things. I believe they are poisoning the well.

This is a commercial message (I define commercial as "about money"). The "How are your kids doing?" is a lie -- it's an attempt to make commercial personal, to use personal as a tool to extract money. I understand that this is the standard operating mode for charities. It does not make me like it any more.

I don't want to acquire an association between receiving a message that starts by asking about my family and wondering what kind of a template the writer is using and how much money does he want.

Comment author: tog 08 December 2015 04:39:40PM -1 points [-]

I disagree - I know Peter was genuinely interested in hearing back from people.

Comment author: tog 01 December 2015 05:43:22PM 3 points [-]

For reference, here are the results from last year's survey, along with Peter's analysis of them. This includes a link to a Github repository including the raw data, with names and email addresses removed.

Notable findings included:

  • The top three sources people in our sample first heard about EA from were LessWrong, friends, or Giving What We Can. LessWrong, GiveWell, and personal contact were cited as the top three reasons people continued to get more involved in EA. (Keep in mind that EAs in our sample might not mean all EAs overall, as discussed in .)
  • 66.9% of the EAs in our sample were from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia, but we have EAs in many countries. You can see the public location responses visualized on the Map of EAs!
  • The Bay Area had the most EAs in our sample, followed by London and then Oxford. New York and Washington DC have surprisingly many EAs and may have flown under the radar.
  • The EAs in our sample in total donated over $5.23 million in 2013. The median donation size was $450 in 2013 donations.
  • 238 EAs in our sample donated 1% of their income or more, and 84 EAs in our sample give 10% of their income. You can see the past and planned donations that people have chosen to made public on the EA Donation Registry.
  • The top three charities donated to by EAs in our sample were GiveWell's three picks for 2013 ­­ AMF, SCI, and GiveDirectly. MIRI was the fourth largest donation target, followed by unrestricted donations to GiveWell.
  • Poverty was the most popular cause among EAs in our sample, followed by metacharity and then rationality.
  • 33.1% of EAs in our sample were either vegan or vegetarian.
  • 34.1% of EAs in our sample who indicated a career indicated that they were aiming to earn to give.
Comment author: tog 30 November 2015 08:50:02AM *  7 points [-]

Here's drawing your attention to this year's Effective Altruism Survey, which was recently released and which Peter Hurford linked to in LessWrong Main. As he says there:

This is a survey of all EAs to learn about the movement and how it can improve. The data collected in the survey is used to help EA groups improve and grow EA. Data is also used to populate the map of EAs, create new EA meetup groups, and create EA Profiles and the EA Donation Registry.

If you are an EA or otherwise familiar with the community, we hope you will take it using this link. All results will be anonymised and made publicly available to members of the EA community. As an added bonus, one random survey taker will be selected to win a $250 donation to their favorite charity.

Take the EA Survey

Comment author: tog 30 November 2015 02:30:24AM 6 points [-]

For reference, here are the results from last year's survey, along with Peter's analysis of them. This includes a link to a Github repository including the raw data, with names and email addresses removed.

Notable findings included:

  • The top three sources people in our sample first heard about EA from were LessWrong, friends, or Giving What We Can. LessWrong, GiveWell, and personal contact were cited as the top three reasons people continued to get more involved in EA. (Keep in mind that EAs in our sample might not mean all EAs overall, as discussed in .)
  • 66.9% of the EAs in our sample were from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia, but we have EAs in many countries. You can see the public location responses visualized on the Map of EAs!
  • The Bay Area had the most EAs in our sample, followed by London and then Oxford. New York and Washington DC have surprisingly many EAs and may have flown under the radar.
  • The EAs in our sample in total donated over $5.23 million in 2013. The median donation size was $450 in 2013 donations.
  • 238 EAs in our sample donated 1% of their income or more, and 84 EAs in our sample give 10% of their income. You can see the past and planned donations that people have chosen to made public on the EA Donation Registry.
  • The top three charities donated to by EAs in our sample were GiveWell's three picks for 2013 ­­ AMF, SCI, and GiveDirectly. MIRI was the fourth largest donation target, followed by unrestricted donations to GiveWell.
  • Poverty was the most popular cause among EAs in our sample, followed by metacharity and then rationality.
  • 33.1% of EAs in our sample were either vegan or vegetarian.
  • 34.1% of EAs in our sample who indicated a career indicated that they were aiming to earn to give.
Comment author: sybrdremr 12 May 2011 07:09:11AM 3 points [-]

You're conflating something here. The statement only refers to "what is true", not your situation; each pronoun refers only to "what is true":

What is true is already true. Owning up to the truth doesn't make the truth any worse.

Comment author: tog 02 October 2015 03:24:55PM 1 point [-]

You're conflating something here. The statement only refers to "what is true", not your situation; each pronoun refers only to "what is true"

In that case saying "Owning up to the truth doesn't make the truth any worse" is correct, but doesn't settle the issue at hand as much as people tend to think it does. We don't just care about whether someone owning up to the truth makes the truth itself worse, which it obviously doesn't. We also care about whether it makes their or other people's situation worse, which it sometimes does.

Comment author: ozziegooen 03 January 2015 09:10:54PM 2 points [-]

Perhaps 'Fermi estimate' was not the best term to use but I couldn't think of an equally understandable but better one. It could be called simply 'estimate', but I think the important thing here is that its used very similarly to how a Fermi estimate would be (with very high uncertainty of the inputs, and done in a very simple manner). What would you call it? (http://lesswrong.com/lw/h5e/fermi_estimates/).

Comment author: tog 19 August 2015 03:15:15PM 0 points [-]

I like the name it sounds like you may be moving to - "guesstimate".

Comment author: owencb 05 January 2015 11:52:07AM 2 points [-]

Thanks, I think this may be a valuable direction to pursue.

The error-tracking for multiplication in Fermilab seems like it's probably wrong. But I don't think there's an easy fix, since products of Gaussian distributions aren't Gaussian. Since multiplication is more common than addition in Fermi estimates, you might replace your distributions with log-normals (this is what I do when tracking uncertainty in back-of-the-envelope calculations), but I agree that monte carlo simulations are really the way to go.

Comment author: tog 19 August 2015 03:12:48PM 0 points [-]

Do you think you'd use this out of interest Owen?

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