an epidemic of girls falsely believing that they can have sex without emotional consequences, finding out the hard way that this is not the case
So, would you be willing to put some numbers on that? Percentages of girls? percentages of sexual encounters? How these percentages changed compared to, say, ancient times like the 1970s or 80s?
'Cause, y'know, the sexual revolution happened in the 1960s, that was a loooong time ago...
'Cause, y'know, the sexual revolution happened in the 1960s, that was a loooong time ago...
The generation that launched the sexual revolution was exposed to the idea that sex has consequences by the previous generation that raised them. Most of them in fact did not participate in the "sexual revolution" which was a small self-selected group. It wasn't until the "sexually liberated" came to dominate the culture that a generation was raised many of whom were never taught about the consequences of sex.
While I don't play Rust, my impression is that the devs are being dicks (heh) for what looks to be ideological reasons. They say:
"Technically nothing has changed, since half the population was already living with those feelings. The only difference is that whether you feel like this is now decided by your SteamID instead of your real life gender."
They are wrong, of course, what changed was that there was no choice possible and now there is a choice (which they dangle in front of you and then deny to you).
Not to mention that even the most rabid proponents of "transgenderism" claim that it's prevalence is anywhere near 50%.
Who are "they" and are you talking about isolated cases or you think there's a rape epidemic in contemporary society?
I believe there is an epidemic of what could be described as "bad sex". Or more accurately, an epidemic of girls falsely believing that they can have sex without emotional consequences, finding out the hard way that this is not the case (either after the encounter itself, after they break up, or even after the boy starts dating someone else thus making it impossible for her to pretend that the relationship isn't over). Then a subset of them attempting to declare the encounter rape because that is the only sex crime current society recognizes.
Rust, a video game, has a veil of ignorance
After you've had a character for a while, gender is imposed randomly and permanently.
Ah, yes. The "we hate our customers" school of game design.
What are you revealing them based on?
Actual behaviour. Repeated actual behaviour while being quite aware of the consequences.
many of them feel
What, you believe SJW's "statistics" now about who feels what? X-)
What, you believe SJW's "statistics" now about who feels what? X-)
Well, what's your explanation for why they retroactively declare it "rape"?
Depends on how much alcohol is involved
You did specify "very drunk".
Except these hook-ups do not make people happy, as judging by the subsequent developments.
Revealed preferences say otherwise.
And anyway, Eugene, aren't you forgetting the great enabler of the sexual revolution: the Pill? It was (and is) a much much important reason why women don't feel obliged to find one male and stick to him for the rest of their lives. They might prefer to, of course, but they mostly they don't have to.
Revealed preferences say otherwise.
What are you revealing them based on? The fact that they go through with at the time, while in a state of impaired judgement. Or the fact that the women feel sufficiently bad enough about it afterwards that many of them feel like retroactively declaring it "rape"?
Could lead to dancing :-/
Depends on how much alcohol is involved.
Reminds me of Mencken's definiton of Puritanism: "The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy"...
Except these hook-ups do not make people happy, as judging by the subsequent developments.
there were a lot fewer instances of women getting that drunk
That might well be true, but I doubt it was because of the no-sex-before-marriage rule.
Having an explicit no-sex-before-marriage rule, means that "it's likely to lead to premarital sex" is a good reason not to do something, like not having a party where people of mixed company will get very drunk together.
I don't know what fraction of women attending college are victims of rape there now -- for reasons already aired by others in this thread, the figures often quoted don't seem terribly trustworthy. But I doubt that an official no-sex-before-marriage norm, as such, makes much difference.
Explicit social norms of this kind notoriously make less difference than you might think. (Warning: most of the things below are single studies which could be wrong or misleading in all kinds of ways; but I know of no reason to expect them all to be wrong in the same direction.)
But I bet a no-sex-until-marriage norm was quite effective in making it harder for women to say they'd been raped. Not for the stranger-leaping-out-of-a-bush sort of rape. But for the sort that I think is much more common on college campuses, where someone gets you too drunk to resist or slips drugs into your drink or just declines to stop when you say "look, this feels very nice but I really don't want to go any further" -- well, with those social norms in place you can't tell that sort of story without getting labelled a Bad Girl, in which case you lose even if your story is believed.
But I bet a no-sex-until-marriage norm was quite effective in making it harder for women to say they'd been raped. Not for the stranger-leaping-out-of-a-bush sort of rape. But for the sort that I think is much more common on college campuses, where someone gets you too drunk
If you actually look at what happened, there were a lot fewer instances of women getting that drunk. Not to mention there would be a lot few "find someone to sleep with at the end"-type parties.
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