Comment author: Stabilizer 02 April 2013 05:25:31AM 4 points [-]

What does this mean?

Comment author: wilder 02 April 2013 12:54:08PM 13 points [-]

That on probabilistic or rational reflection one can come to believe intuitively implausible things that are as or more extraordinary than their theological counterparts. Or to mutilate Hamlet, that there are more things on earth than are dreamt of in heaven.

Comment author: wilder 02 April 2013 03:57:43AM *  7 points [-]

Like all great rationalists you believed in things that were twice as incredible as theology.

― Halldór Laxness, Under the Glacier.

Comment author: pragmatist 29 January 2013 11:30:22AM *  3 points [-]

I second the recommendation. His work on the arrow of time is classic, of course, but I'd particularly encourage people to read his stuff on naturalism and truth, especially the papers collected in his book Naturalism Without Mirrors (most of which are available for download on his website, I think). A very useful (and, in my opinion, largely correct) counterpoint to the LW orthodoxy on these subjects.

For a quick introduction to his approach, try his three Descartes lectures, available here.

Comment author: wilder 30 January 2013 08:24:35PM 0 points [-]

I read NWM as well as a number of his other papers earlier this year, and while I enjoyed them a great deal I still struggle to understand the basic motivations for and plausibility/coherence of anti-representationalism/global expressionism. Why not rest content with commonsensical expressionism within restricted domains (culture/psychology/morals)? Total metaphysical and scientific expressionism make little sense to me; it seems obvious that there must be some underlying medium that governs our "discursive practices". I haven't read FFT (waiting on the 2nd ed) but I don't see a semantic/truth theory trumping my confidence in science as a method of representational success.

Would appreciate pointers, thoughts or conversation.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 February 2012 06:28:29PM 3 points [-]

Unscientific does that job already

No. It also cover people who don't even try to be scientific.

In response to comment by [deleted] on Rationality Quotes February 2012
Comment author: wilder 02 February 2012 08:45:16PM 0 points [-]

Agree with that. There is a finer-grained distinction worth drawing -- with some other word!

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 February 2012 05:38:59AM 0 points [-]

Unfortunately, the word "scietism" does describe a real set of related failure modes that people trying to be "scientific" frequently fall into, as I discussed in more detail in this thread.

Comment author: wilder 02 February 2012 01:43:22PM *  1 point [-]

Unscientific does that job already, while the '-ism' suffix denotes, in this case, belief in science. Why let them have a perfectly good word?

Comment author: Grognor 02 February 2012 01:58:13AM 11 points [-]

The quote doesn't seem to actually say anything.

Comment author: wilder 02 February 2012 01:41:07PM *  4 points [-]

I suppose it's one of those statements that says a good deal in context and rather less outside it. 'Scientism' usually refers to a belief in the universal applicability of the tools of science in understanding the world. It is so understood by two camps, one who views it as an intellectual failing, the other a virtue. Wilson's point is that the latter camp should not cede any ground to the former -- not even terminological ground.

Edit: by context here I don't mean the book in particular. More like, reading too much contemporary philosophy.

Comment author: wilder 01 February 2012 10:34:36PM 14 points [-]

Wishing for something that is logically impossible is a sign that there is something better to wish for.

David Deutsch, The Beginning of Infinity

Comment author: wilder 01 February 2012 05:56:26PM 1 point [-]

"I yield the Lamp of Scientism to no one!"

Mark Wilson, Wandering Significance

Comment author: wilder 01 February 2012 09:24:48PM *  2 points [-]

Curious to know why this was downvoted. Many philosophers use 'scientism' as a term of abuse, and Luke has written about reclaiming the term here. I found this a rather pithy rallying call that antedates Rosenberg's.

Apologies if this is gratuitous but it was my first post!

Comment author: wilder 01 February 2012 06:25:52PM 9 points [-]

"The Enlightenment is the moment at which explanatory knowledge is beginning to assume its soon-to-be-normal role as the most important determinant of physical events. At least it could be: we had better remember that what we are attempting – the sustained creation of knowledge – has never worked before. Indeed, everything that we shall ever try to achieve from now on will never have worked before. We have, so far, been transformed from the victims (and enforcers) of an eternal status quo into the mainly passive recipients of the benefits of relatively rapid innovation in a bumpy transition period. We now have to accept, and rejoice in bringing about, our next transformation: to active agents of progress in the emerging rational society – and universe."

David Deutsch, The Beginning of Infinity

Comment author: wilder 01 February 2012 05:56:26PM 1 point [-]

"I yield the Lamp of Scientism to no one!"

Mark Wilson, Wandering Significance

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