Good news about the Big Bang

0 xamdam 25 November 2010 12:44PM

(Disclaimer: very poor knowledge of physics here, just interpreting the article)

http://www.physorg.com/print209708826.html

- looks like there are many of them, as non-creationists would expect

The really good news is

> In the past, Penrose has investigated cyclic cosmology models because he has noticed another shortcoming of the much more widely accepted inflationary theory: it cannot explain why there was such low entropy at the beginning of the universe. The low entropy state (or high degree of order) was essential for making complex matter possible.

Which I interpret to mean information passes through the Big Crunch/Big Bang cycle. No heat death, information passes through - good news for transhumanists?

 

Comment author: JoshuaFox 25 November 2010 08:04:02AM 6 points [-]

If you want to talk about "ancestral environment," then note that infanticide is quite common in many cultures, as far as I can tell including hunter-gatherers.

Comment author: xamdam 25 November 2010 12:16:54PM 3 points [-]

variation in SIDS across socio-economic spectrum suggest infanticide is quite common in our culture.

Comment author: [deleted] 24 November 2010 09:56:03PM 5 points [-]

Likelihood to survive seems like a good explanation.

25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Miscarriage is common and (at least in the culture I'm familiar with) causes grief, but nowhere near the same kind of grief as losing a born child. The hospital procedure is routine and not attended with the same kind of reverence as death usually is. I think it's because miscarriage is so common that it's not generally considered to have the same gravity as death. I don't even know if there's research being done to reduce miscarriage. (If 25% of humans died of a given disease, you can bet we'd be researching it.)

I think that in point of social fact fetuses aren't granted the same status as babies, even among pro-life people.

Comment author: xamdam 25 November 2010 12:02:45PM 1 point [-]

25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Miscarriage is common...The hospital procedure is routine and not attended with the same kind of reverence as death usually is.

Infant death rate was around 20% (in Paris!) when they invented incubators. I wonder if their attitude to infant death was similar to our re: miscarriage.

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Comment author: xamdam 18 November 2010 02:12:15AM 0 points [-]
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Comment author: RichardKennaway 17 November 2010 05:23:19PM *  1 point [-]

"Jam now" is a necessary condition, not a sufficient one.

first hour or day

If I decide to, say, learn Spanish, then I expect every hour spent on the task, including the first one, to pay a perceptible return.

Comment author: xamdam 17 November 2010 05:37:30PM 1 point [-]

I accept this as a valid point - first hour/day is an important heuristic indicator of goodness, but Eli wrote

You only need to convince them that the first hour or day

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Comment author: xamdam 17 November 2010 05:24:52PM 0 points [-]

Interestingly 0 as in "free stuff" is also often mispriced (hence all the 'free offers' you get in the mail).

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Comment author: RichardKennaway 17 November 2010 11:49:42AM 1 point [-]

Eliezer writes in the theory of fun that to sell an idea to someone, you usually don't need to convince them it's a good thing to live with for their whole life. You only need to convince them that the first hour or day after they choose is going to be good.

I think that's a rational response, by the person you're trying to convince. The more distant the promised reward of whatever someone is touting to me, the more it will cost to reach it, and the more convinced I would have to be before taking it seriously enough to even begin. Or to put that the other way round, show me something that I can do right now and experience evidence that it works, and the bar for you to sell it to me is much lower.

"Jam tomorrow" is the promise of crooks and charlatans.

Comment author: xamdam 17 November 2010 05:21:10PM 2 points [-]

I think that's a rational response

In the timespan under discussion

first hour or day

you just justified crack usage

Comment author: xamdam 11 November 2010 06:10:59PM *  17 points [-]

The descriptive math part was very good, thanks - and that's why I resisted downvoting the post. My problem is that the conclusion omits the hugely important factor that categories are useful for specific goals, and the kind of techniques you are suggesting (essentially unsupervised techniques) are context-free.

E.g. is a dead cow more similar to a dead (fixed from 'live') horse or to a live cow? (It clearly depends what you want to do with it)

Comment author: MichaelGR 06 November 2010 06:48:52PM 6 points [-]

If you can't tell whose side someone is on, they are not on yours. -Warren E. Buffett

Comment author: xamdam 10 November 2010 01:46:16AM 4 points [-]

If after 1/2 hr of poker you can't tell who's the patsy, it's you. - Charles T. Munger

Comment author: xamdam 08 November 2010 12:48:52AM 7 points [-]

The Red guy is a dead ringer for Prime Intellect.

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