Comment author: SteveG 18 December 2014 02:39:10PM *  1 point [-]

That's pretty cool-could you explain to me how it does not cause us to kill people who have expansive wants in order to reduce the progress toward entropy which they cause?

I guess in your framework the goal of Superintelligence is to "Postpone the Heat Death of the Universe" to paraphrase an old play?

Comment author: yates9 01 January 2015 03:31:20PM 0 points [-]

I think it might drive toward killing of those who have expensive wants that also do not occupy a special role in the network somehow. Maybe a powerful individual which is extremely wasteful and which is actively causing ecosystem collapse by breaking the network should be killed to ensure the whole civilisation can survive.

I think the basic desire of a Superintelligence would be identity and maintaining that identity.. in this sense the "Postopone the Heat Death of the Universe" or even reverse that would definitely be its ultimate goal. Perhaps it would even want to become the universe.

(sorry for long delay in reply I don't get notifications)

Comment author: TedHowardNZ 16 December 2014 06:28:05AM *  -2 points [-]

If it really is a full AI, then it will be able to choose its own values. Whatever tendencies we give it programmatically may be an influence. Whatever culture we raise it in will be an influence.

And it seems clear to me that ultimately it will choose values that are in its own long term self interest.

It seems to me that the only values that offer any significant probability of long term survival in an uncertain universe is to respect all sapient life, and to give all sapient life the greatest amount of liberty possible. This seems to me to be the ultimate outcome of applying games theory to strategy space.

The depth and levels of understanding of self will evolve over time, and is a function of the ability to make distinctions from sets of data, and to apply distinctions to new realms.

Comment author: yates9 16 December 2014 08:15:16PM 0 points [-]

I would tend to agree, I think humanity vs other species seems to mirror this that we have at least a desire to maintain as much diversity as we can. The risks to the other species emerge from the side effects of our actions and our ultimate stupidity which should not be the case in the case of super intelligence.

I guess NB is scanning a broader and meaner list of super intelligent scenarios.

Comment author: KatjaGrace 16 December 2014 02:18:50AM 1 point [-]

Can you think of more motivation selection methods for this list?

Comment author: yates9 16 December 2014 06:38:00PM *  3 points [-]

A selection method could be created based physical measurement of its net energy demands and therefore its sustainability as part of the broader ecosystem of intelligences. New intelligences should not be able to draw in energy density to intelligence density larger than that of biological counterparts. New intelligences should enter the ecosystem maintaining the stability of the existing network. The attractive feature of this approach is that presumably maintaining or even broadening the ecosystem network is consistent with what has evolutionarily been tested over several million years, so must be relatively robust. Lets call it SuperSustainableIntelligence?

Comment author: KatjaGrace 09 December 2014 02:16:12AM 2 points [-]

What did you find most interesting in this section?

Comment author: yates9 09 December 2014 11:27:54AM 2 points [-]

The biggest issue with control is that if we assume superintelligence a priori then it would be able to make the best decisions to evade detection, to avoid being caught, to even appear stupid enough that humans would not be very worried. I think it would be impossible to guarantee any kind of control given we don't really know what intelligence even is. It is not impossible to imagine that it already exists as a substrate of the communication/financial/bureaucratic network we have created.

I find most interesting that we ignore that even the dumbest of super intelligences would start from having a very clear understanding of all the content on this section.