All of ajc586's Comments + Replies

ajc58610

I personally don't find anything on the list disagreeable (including the summarization and mentoring items).

Summarization is a pretty well established memory consolidation technique to improve long-term recall of information. The OP does not explicitly state this is the aim, but that was my assumption, and if so I think it is uncontroversial that that is beneficial.

Regarding the mentoring, the item on the list was "you would have a good mentor" (which I agree with) and then underneath is "One way to do this is to email people" (which I also agree with in t... (read more)

cata120

I disagree with the summarization suggestion for the same reason that I disagree with many of the items -- I don't have (much of) the problem they are trying to solve, so why would I expend effort to attack a problem I don't have?

The most obvious is "carrying extra batteries for my phone." My phone never runs out of battery; I should not carry batteries that I will never use. Similarly: I don't have a problem with losing things, such that I need extra. (If I had extra, I would plausibly give them away to save physical space!) I don't find myself wishing I ... (read more)

Elizabeth1613

I don't think a fluff test is appropriate for a list titled "if you weren't such an idiot...". The whole point is that the advice is obvious[1] but people are nonetheless failing to implement it.

  1. ^

    And I'm annoyed that some of the advice fails that test. Feels like smuggling in assumptions.

7cata
Are you really saying you think everything on this list is "obviously" beneficial? I probably only agree with half the stuff on the list. For example, I certainly disagree that I should "summarize things that I read" (?) or that I should have a "good mentor" by emailing people to request that they mentor me.
ajc58610

I think that when you say "I love cats", you mean more than you prioritize specific cats. At some points, those cats will no longer be with you, and if you are like most cat lovers, likely you will then go on to own and prioritize different cats. So while the cats you prioritize at any moment in time may be specific, if you are like most cat owners, over the course of your life you will generally prioritize cats. ("I choose to eat cake every day above other desserts, but I don't in general love cake, just the cakes I eat on a given day" sounds like more li... (read more)

2Gordon Seidoh Worley
I can't really disagree here, and yet I still feel like you're leaving out some important component of what love means by just focusing on prioritization. It's like there's multiple things going on, and prioritization often gets bundled with love in everyday use, but you can love without prioritization, that's just not what most people do.
ajc58660

German Autobahns with no speed limit have been designed to be safely driven at high speed. For example, wide lanes, long straight sections, very large radius of curvature for non-straight sections, minimal layout changes, good drainage. And also features which minimise the impact if accidents do occur, e.g. strong central barriers.

It does not therefore follow that removing speed limits on typical American freeways, which have not been designed for high speeds, is a sensible thing to do.

Plus, the way US politics works, if you did any kind of no speed limit ... (read more)

ajc58610

Can you think of examples of mainstream use of the word 'love' for which prioritization isn't an essential component? It seems to me that prioritization is the key thing that binds together what would otherwise be disparate uses of the word, not just in the relationship context. (e.g. the 'love' in "I love reading" and "I love my wife" mean very different things, but are both effectively statements of prioritization)

4Gordon Seidoh Worley
Sure! Christians are pretty mainstream, and they regularly talk about God's love for them, but in Christian theology, God's love is for everyone, and so God is not prioritizing anyone. I admit that's not a very central example, though, so here's something more mundane: I think someone saying "I love cats" is not necessarily a statement of prioritization. Sure, I love cats, but I'm not going out of my way to prioritize cats in general over other things. Although I do prioritize some specific cats, I also love cats in general, and this carries no real burden of prioritization, as I don't have to love other things less, and my feeling of love for cats doesn't really go away when I'm thinking about my love for other things.
ajc58610

While 'love' isn't of course well defined, it seems a central component for most usages is one of prioritisation (of time, money, emotional bandwidth etc.) in the face of constrained supply.

So in romantic love, priority of (usually) a single person is a necessary component. Loving a romantic partner is providing a guarantee to yourself that you will prioritize their needs over competing demands (which will therefore reduce in priority). Sex is often one of those needs, but not necessarily. It's the guarantee of priority that matters, not specifically what ... (read more)

2Gordon Seidoh Worley
I don't have a detailed model of why, but this strongly conflicts with my intuition of what love is. From my perspective this is zeroing in on one aspect of some types of relationships that reflects something adjacent to but not part of love.
ajc58610

I think one of the reasons why punitive damages sometimes make sense is in recognition of the fact that the total 'damage' (in the colloquial, not legal sense) can sometimes include not just an economic component, but a societal component beyond that.

Here's an example: suppose a company is concerned about wrongful death suits. There are basically two levers available here: (1) spend $X on making the work environment safer, (2) put $Y aside to cover the cost of such suits, and of course it's not either/or here. But although this didn't turn out to be the ca... (read more)

ajc58610

I don't think productivity ever increases with contiguous time spent on a given activity, at least in the short term. (Yes, longer term you can identify and implement working patterns that increase overall productivity.) All the effects push in the opposite direction: low hanging fruit gets picked first, you get tired, you get hungry, you've done all you can on your part of the critical path and need to wait for others to do their bit before you can continue, etc.

So I think there are two explanations here if someone on Hacker News does claim that the last ... (read more)

ajc58640

I like the idea of the 4-day work week, but this post is actually a quite separate argument.

The 4DWW idea is: work less, and you'll be happier as a direct consequence.

The argument in this post is: if you want to work X hours a week, whatever that X is, go for it! But rather than spending X on one job where you're almost certainly spending a significant proportion of X in the diminishing returns regime, split it into e.g. 0.8X on that job and 0.2X on a completely separate job. The main effect of this will be productivity gains, which in turn will lead to increased happiness as a side-effect.

ajc58610

Yes. I don’t think the argument requires that the work be hard (or that you work hard at it, whatever that really means). I believe it’s quite generally true that for most activities (howsoever achieved), productivity drops as hours spent increases. Then the rest of the argument follows.

ajc58650

Apologies for using ‘engineering speak’ without explaining. The transfer function relates the output of a process to its input. In this case the output is literally your total work output (y axis), and the input (x axis) is the time you spend producing that output.

The shape of this curve is well established, whereby initially the gradient is quite steep (that is, the first hours you spend doing a task, you get a lot done) but the gradient quickly starts to flatten.

ajc58610

Thanks for the thoughtful response, although I'm not sure quite of the approach. For starters, 'aligning humans' takes a long time and we may simply not have time to test any proposed alignment scheme on humans if we want to avoid AGI misalignment catastrophe. Not to mention ethical issues and so forth.

Society has been working on human alignment for a very long time, and we've settled on a dual approach: (1) training the model in particular ways (e.g. parenting, schooling etc.) and (2) a very complex, likely suboptimal system of 'checks and balances' to tr... (read more)

ajc58630

This article I think exemplifies why many people do not follow this advice. It's 39 pages long. I read it all, and enjoyed it, but most people I claim have a shorter attention span and would have either read half a page then stopped, or would have balked when they saw it was a 26-minute read and not read any of it. And those people are probably most in need of this kind of advice.

Language has a wonderful flexibility to trade off precision/verbosity against accessibility/conciseness. If you really want to rule out everything you don't mean, you inevitably n... (read more)

3papetoast
I object that we need to weigh the cost of everything is a quite important thing to mention in this post. Weighing the cost of everything is a very important thing, but it is another topic on its own; It is a whole different skill to hone (I think Duncan actually wrote a post about this in the CFAR handbook).
ajc58610

(Apologies if in writing this response I have missed your point.)

I don't believe that in most polyamorous relationships there are clear (i.e. fixed) priorities. I think most people will appreciate that priorities will change depending on the situation. The point I was trying to make was that this kind of 'emotional availability uncertainty' is specific to polyamorous relationships. Yes work can be a higher priority than the person in some relationships or at some times, but this is similar regardless of relationship type. The specific failure mode in polya... (read more)

2Slider
There is also the edge case when emotional availabilty to one person does not interfere to be emotionally available to another person. That is, Y is responding to Z and X needs stuff then XYZ have a emodwelling pit. Priorization becomes redundant once again.
ajc58640

A downside of polyamorous relationships not mentioned here is that it removes guarantees of availability, which for many is an important (the most important?) value component of a long-term relationship.

For example, consider a couple X and Y. Let's say X has a bad day at work. X knows that, when they get home, Y will be there to provide emotional support. This provides benefit for X in two ways - X knows that Y will be there for support later even while the bad day is playing out, and X additionally benefits from the actual support from Y once home. Y feel... (read more)

0Davidmanheim
There's nothing fundamental about polyamory that precludes guarantees of availability. You can certainly have 1 (or more) primary partners who you agree to be more closely bound to. And in fact, many poly people have exactly this, a primary "marriage" along with polyamory.
2Slider
The benefit comes from clarity of priority. Polyamorousness per se does not preclude to be clear about priorities. If you know you are the 5th priority of 6 people then you know your support is unreliable. If you have even one person that you are the number one priority then you know you do have the support reliability. Whether those lesser priorities are work or other people is not that relevant. And monogamous relationship does not prevent work from being a higher priority than the person. And not all needs are guaranteed to be in the same level compared to non-relationship priorities. Not skipping work for horniness but yes skipping work for health care. Now there might be dynamics where being ranked creates negative feelings. And there can be drama from going from "X>Y" to "X<Y". But how many people are involved does not affect that much how much pain this priorization causes (or whether undefined "plausible evenness" provides a more general positive vibe than emergency triage drags it down).
ajc58621

but is relaxing and having "fun" necessarily better than intellectual stimulation and learning from challenges? And won't experiences like that speed up self-discovery?

I think it speeds up self-discovery, at the expense of narrowing the domain within which that self-discovery takes place. So if you spend a lot of time as a teenager developing software, you certainly learn more about yourself in terms of your aptitude for developing software. But there's an opportunity cost. I favour unguided self-discovery (a.k.a. "having fun") for longer, because I view s... (read more)

1belkarx
I'd argue that working earlier and having fun are not necessarily mutually exclusive - for example, look at university life. There are a lot of students doing research and other work, while participating in probably the strongest self-discovery of their lives. I also don't think specialization has a significant impact on what forms of self-discovery someone can engage in - software engineering covers a broad variety of things, from working with people to problem solving to time management to creativity and pitching your work
ajc58610

The proportion of "deference to authority" is too high, in my opinion.

 

In school, or in the real world? And if the latter, what context in particular? In a career context, for example, lower deference to authority (when carefully executed) tends to lead to more rapid promotion, where at the terminus (CEO) everyone in an organisation defers to you. It doesn't seem there's a huge supply/demand imbalance for senior roles, which suggests to me that the self-assertiveness vs. deference balance in working-age society is more or less optimal.

what society cur

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1belkarx
I meant that school generally tries to embed deference to authority. It fades in the real world for certain jobs though. 1. Brain myelination and information processing speed are highest then. Time is ticking if you want it to be easy to do creative, innovative work quickly. It is, of course, very possible to be successful as an adult with lower levels of neuroplasticity and processing and more "crystallized" intelligence, however adolescents have that particular advantage, differentiating them and making them valuable in a unique way. 2. This is turning into more subjective philosophy territory, but is relaxing and having "fun" necessarily better than intellectual stimulation and learning from challenges? And won't experiences like that speed up self-discovery?
ajc58610

What were the principal factors that led to your decision that homeschooling and early graduation was 'better' for your kids then a 'conventional' schooling approach/timetable?

Clearly entering the workforce earlier leads to financial independence sooner, more years in employment hence greater lifetime wealth accumulation, etc. It's not clear that these things are that important either to individual well-being and happiness or in terms of one's place in broader society, so I'm interested in other kinds of reasons.

Full disclosure: I am 'a priori' against hom... (read more)

3Kerry
My decision to homeschool was due to my own experiences in public school, and the common thread amongst my similarly public schooled friends. We were all smart, socially outcast, and had a terrible time in school. If you're smart and weird school holds you back, limits your exploration of your potential, and retards your social growth by forcing you into age based groups instead of intelligence based groups. For my kids, they get contact with a more heterogenous group than school would allow. They spend time with kids and adults of a wide age range, and a wide social range. Think hippy live in the woods unschoolers to more academic atheist homeschoolers. They also get much, much more time to be kids. School is around 2 to 3 hours per day for each kid, until they go to community college. Plus no bus, no arbitrary schedule, no homework, no forced nap time, and no bullying.  At 14 or so they go into community college, which is again more heterogenous than either public high school or 4 year college. My son's lab partner was a 50 year old retired fireman from Alaska, and my son learned more than chemistry that semester. Then they go to 4 year college, and learn to be part of their future class of college educated upper middle class folks.  In truth it was about not forcing my kids to endure what I had to endure, what I felt was unjust and cruel. I've seen wonderful outcomes so far, and that wasn't a forgone conclusion. The kids are happy, educated, and ready for the world. I'm happy enough with it to repeat this for the next 4 kids.
ajc58610

There's an inplicit assumption, both in the post and in many of the comments, that the 'value' of school for teenagers lies in knowledge acquisition. And therefore, if school is busywork a.k.a. does not lead to acquisition of useful knowledge, homeschooling or 'alternative' schooling must be better. I think this is wrong.

For society, the principal lasting value of schooling teenagers relates to the acquisition of skills like:

  • dynamic balancing of self-assertiveness vs. deference to authority (both on an interpersonal level, and also on a societal level)
  • prod
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2Alex K. Chen (parrot)
I was the one of the most conscientious people in school (had high grades and my teachers praised me for being a hard worker [and really, they don't care about you...]) and school burned me out so much that I developed a long period of ADHD/burnout after (avoiding all the things that made me unhappy) . The thing that happened to Qiaochu Yuan also happened to me. 
1belkarx
The proportion of "deference to authority" is too high, in my opinion. This isn't application-based knowledge. I mentioned that students can learn concepts on their own, but what society currently lacks is a path to do something useful with it from a younger age. Also, I agree that learning social behavior is one of the primary purposes of school, and I'd like to stress that I'm not advocating for the removal of the school system.