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cesoid119

Funny thing about Ex Machina, is that I interpreted the ending very differently, and I feel that it is, at least, partially the way the author(s) intended. To me, it was not entirely about AI, it was also about people who are not considered human for a reason that is similar to the reason that AI is not considered human, which is that they are not like them in a superficial way. You'll have to forgive me if I don't remember correctly because it's been a few years since I watched it, but I can't think of any evidence that the AI character is different from ... (read more)

2Nathan Helm-Burger
Yeah, I think that we will need to be careful not to create AIs capable of suffering and commit mindcrimes against them. I also think a confinement is much safer if the AI doesn't know it is being confined. I endorse Jacob Cannell's idea for training entirely within a simulation that has carefully censored information such that the sim appears to be the entire universe and doesn't mention computers or technology. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KLS3pADk4S9MSkbqB/review-love-in-a-simbox
cesoid20

Here's my strategy if I were an AI trapped in a box and the programmer had to decide whether to let me out:

Somewhere out there, there is somebody else who is working on an AI without the box, and I'm your only defense against them.

4RowanE
Discussing object-level strategies for the AI-box experiment is kind of missing the point. A superintelligent AI, being smarter than a human, has a higher upper limit to "best strategy you can think of" than any human does, so a human who tries to imagine the best possible strategy, pictures himself facing that strategy and decides he would win, and therefore expects a boxed AI to stay boxed. The more object-level strategy gets discussed, the more likely that is to happen, which I think is the main reason the logs of the experiments stay secret.
cesoid150

What does "stupid" refer to in this context? Does it mean the comments were unintelligent? Not quite intelligent enough? Mean? Derailing discussion? I'm asking because there are certainly some criteria where the banning and deleting would leave a worse impression than the original comments, and I'm thinking that the equilibrium may be surprisingly in the direction of the more obnoxious comments. Especially since the banning and deleting is being done by someone who is more identified with LW than likely were any of the commenters.