All of Conor's Comments + Replies

Conor10

"The problem is that Johnson is expecting this to translate into defeating aging, which I very much do not expect."

I'm fairly confident Johnson is betting on future tech solving aging and his goal is to live long enough to be there for it by creating measurements and therapies for the health of every organ.

From his site: 

"2023: don’t die because we don’t know how long and well we can live "

"This time, our time, right now - the early 21st century - will be defined by the radical evolution of intelligence: human, AI and biology. Our opportunity is to be this exciting future. "
https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/ 

Conor10

Hey Adam, please review some of replies I've made to other commentators for issues I don't address here.

>ease of use

A keyboard shortcut, chrome extension that serves the results in a side bar or some other spot, autocomplete in the search bar, or bookmark would remove that friction. 

If I want to go to lesswrong, I hit ctrl-t for a new tab, type "les" and chrome completes the url. The same would apply.

>cognitive overhead

I do not think about those things for something that delivers me consistent value. If the starting premise is "I don't value thi... (read more)

2Adam Zerner
Good point. I see the need to set that up as a downside but ultimately a relatively small one. Yeah, that makes sense too. I was thinking along the lines of "I don't think this would provide me a lot of value, but maybe it'd provide a little value. But if it provides a small amount of value, the small downsides might outweigh the small value."
Conor10

Tried that previously. It limits the search results and it doesn't rank the results it simply spits out first results it finds on the first domain it searches. 

You can give the one I made a try to see what it mean. Don't be fooled by the number of pages it lists at the bottom - that's fake:  https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=cced60b51960f6137

Conor10

Use cases: superconductor, Ukraine war, LLM development, diet or exercise, dealing with anxiety, etc. But you would only get results from a curated list of sites with higher epistemic standards.

I should have been more explicit in my initial post. I was relying on the word "rationalist" to do too much. 

No worries about negativity. It is exactly what I want, so thank you.

Conor20

Yes, but instead of searching one domain (lesswrong), it would search ~100+ curated domains. Google currently limits the domains to ten.

Conor30

>drowning in stuff to read

Suppose you wanted to find content on prioritizing what you read by people with similar interests or with higher standards than most writers in the google search results. 

Do you expect a search of LW will be more likely to deliver what you want than a search of LW +100 other sites? 

>Google is free, and supports limiting queries to specific domains.

The limit is ten sites.

>just search LW or EA

What if you could do both in one place plus search all these and the ACX's blogroll and similar sites?

>solution in searc... (read more)

Conor10

Unfortunately, I've found that appending rationalist to queries doesn't get the desired results. Instead you get this: link

If you could limit your search results to sites with a higher level of epistemics, would that be more compelling? There might be default set of sites, which you could customize and submit requests for additions to the corpus.

What price point would change your mind? Is the idea compelling enough that you would try a demo?

4Brendan Long
Can you give an example of a case where I would want to do this? I have trouble thinking of one. Some related but different cases that are already handled by normal search engines are: * Finding an article on LessWrong - search for "something about the article lesswrong". A rationalist-specific search engine is overkill for this. Note that this actually works decently well to find articles that aren't on LessWrong, like how https://www.google.com/search?q=the+toxoplasma+of+rage+lesswrong returns a Slate Star Codex article as the first result * Finding a relatively unbiased article about a recent political case - search for "the political event" then scan the first page for sites I think are relatively unbiased. Politics generally doesn't get as much coverage in Rationalist spaces so I would expect a Rationalist-only search engine to fail to find anything at all most of the time (and personally I don't think Rationalist sites are systematically better at political coverage than the decent mainstream outlets even when it does exist). I don't mean to be overly negative though, and it's possible there is a use-case / audience for this. Just giving honest feedback on why I wouldn't find this compelling since that seems to be what you were wanting.
1Stephen Bennett
That's the wrong search query, you're asking google to find pages about the Ukraine War that also include mentions of the term "rationalist"; you're not asking google to search for rationalist discussions of the Ukraine War. Instead I'd do something like this.
Conor10

What utility would it need to provide to change your mind?

How about a search of sites curated for a higher level of epistemics? Can you think of any searches you might do where that would be useful?

Suppose it cost between $2-6 a month? Or, what price point would be enticing for you to try it?

5MondSemmel
I have so many bookmarks that I'm drowning in (mostly rationalist-adjacent) stuff to read, and I don't immediately see how even a fantastically powerful search engine could help here. For me to even consider paying a subscription, I must obviously get way more value out of it each month than I put in in money. That means it must save me significant chunks of time or money. I don't immediately see how a search engine which is limited to a subset of websites is supposed to do that, or what it is supposed to offer that's orders of magnitude better than just sorting LW by the posts with the most karma. And even if your product managed to meet that bar, then you'd need to fulfill a second requirement, namely that there must not exist any competitors who can do what you offer except better, cheaper, or for free (as in, financed via ads etc.). E.g. Google is free, and supports limiting queries to specific domains. Also consider that essentially no individual users on the Internet currently pay for search; it's considered a free service. And the offer you've been describing so far sounds worse, namely more expensive and more limited. Maybe there's a way to produce so much value that a subscription is a slamdunk, but I haven't heard any sufficiently impressive value proposition yet. That's why I figured that an economically more sensible approach would be to offer helping to improve the search on LW and the EA Forum. Those sites are already home to a significant fraction of the rationalist userbase, plus it seems much easier for them to generate significant extra value from better search. EDIT: And fundamentally, so far I have the impression that you already have some technical solution in mind, and now you're searching for a problem to solve. From what I understand of startups (not much), isn't that exactly the wrong approach? E.g. usual recommendations for startup ideas sound more like "solve a problem you have yourself".
Conor30

My understanding is that google limits the search space to ten sites.

 >set of sites of my choosing

Perhaps a standard set of sites that could be customized with the option to submit requests for additions.

Thanks for the ideas.

2AnthonyC
I didn't know google had that limit, thanks. At my last job we had some data scientists build a tool to convert a relatively intuitive interface for inputting Boolean search terms to the specific forms needed for APIs of various data sources. We used it for patents, papers, that kind of thing. Sometimes the search strings ended up having to be 5-10 lines long. That was mostly when a term could be used lots of ways and we only needed one of them, or when there were combinatorically many ways of combining sets of terms to mean the overall same thing. So, I do think there can be a lot of value in prompt engineering for searches in targeted contexts. Do you think LLMs will get to a point of being able to do this relatively well with the right prompts? 
Conor64

Teenagers generally don't start learning to drive until they have had fifteen years to orient themselves in the world.

AI and teenagers are not starting from the same point so the comparison does not map very well.

Conor10

How did it go? Please share even if it didn't work out it could be helpful for others.

2FiftyTwo
Never really got anywhere. Its long enough ago that I don't really remember why, but think I generally found it unengaging. Have periodically tried to teach myself programming through different methods since then but none have stuck. This probably speaks to the difficulty of learning new skills when you have limited time/energy resources, and no specific motivation, more than anything else. (Have had similar difficulties with language learning, but got past them due to short term practical benefits, and devoting specific time to the task). 
Conor10

Yes, but i'm not sure how that follows from your original question.

What can you do with a bad explanation that you can't do with no explanation?

Conor10

Deutsch specifies good explanations (laws of nature, scientific theories), and claims the rapid increase of good explanations is because of the invention of the scientific method, and thus explanations are essential for progress.

A bad explanation allows me to make (bad) sense of the world, which makes it appear less chaotic and threatening. 

Ah yes, the spirits are causing the indigestion. Now I know that I need only do a specific dance to please them and the discomfort will resolve. 

The alternative is suffering for no apparent reason or recourse. At least until we find a good explanation for indigestion.

1TAG
The lowest limit on bad explanation isnt even zero, it's negative. For instance, the use of leaching as a cure-all.
Conor10

I think I wasn't clear. An explanation that isn't accurate is still an explanation to Deutsch, it just isn't a good one. Microbiology or bread-spirits are both explanations for rising bread.

1TAG
That strengthens the case for explanation being ubiquitous at the expense of the case for explanation being important. What can you do with a bad explanation that you can't do with no explanation?
Conor*10

"Our ancestors followed many practices which work, but for which they had no explanation."

That would be very surprising for a species that reflexively attempts to explain things.

Also, in the book, he specifies that's he's explaining the unprecedented rate of consistent progress from the scientific revolution onward.

Edit: I was mistaken. He is trying to explain all progress.

1TAG
Not really. Failing to do stuff that works will kill you. Doing stuff that works inexplicably won't.
Conor40

Seven years later, would you modify this scheme? 

Is there validity to the volume/consistency over intensity argument? Training 1/2 max reps every day vs going to failure 2-3 times week.

An illustration:

10 reps is your pull-up max. 

Volume/consistency: 5 reps every day for 35 a week vs Intensity: 2-3 workouts for 20-30 reps a week.

Over a year that's 1820 vs 1040-1560.

Firas Zahabi outlines it here: 

Conor10

Example

  1. I am working on a hard problem and A. I notice a thought proposing a distraction from my current task, B. but I stop myself and continue my current activity.
  2.  
    1. Perceptually recognize a thought proposing a distraction from my current task.
    2. Feel the need for explicit reasons why I would change tasks.
    3. Experience an aversion to changing tasks without explicit reasons.
    4. Ask why I want to change to that task, to what end, and why now.
  3. Exercise

Recognizing the distractions. I'm struggling to come up with an idea on how to do this other than a form of awareness or attention meditation.

Conor10

What are the other posts in your top five?

Conor10

Did you end up trying the microneedling? I'm curious about that route.

3John_Maxwell
Yes, I tried it. It gave me a headache but I would guess that's not common. Think it's probably a decent place to start.
Conor10

How are things progressing?

3John_Maxwell
I didn't end up sticking to this because of various life disruptions. I think it was a bit helpful but I'm planning to try something more intensive next time.
Conor10

I suppose the next step after passing the desire test, would be to actually verify that the goal will, in reality, provide that thing I imagine makes me go mmmm by researching and testing. 

I imagine walking around dressed like a doctor and telling people I'm a doctor. Adding M.D. to my online dating profile, job shadowing, going to neighborhoods where doctors live, luring some doctors into my van, learning to sew, digging a pit in my cellar, and buying some night vision goggles and buying a bunch of lotion...

Luckily, I don't want to be a doctor.

Conor*20

If you are fearful of offending people go to an online or in person marketplace and start low-balling people...

 

That... is a great idea and I can see how to expand on it into other arenas.

Since I posted this question I've been working primarily on strategy and through that have realized improving my productivity would be a wise decision. Since they seem so intertwined (productivity is the strategic use of time and resources) I've split my time up into 40% strategy, 40% productivity, 20% execution of other goal-oriented tasks. 

I've drafted some wa... (read more)

2frontier64
I'm glad you appreciate the advice. It seems to me that you've developed a very effective, structured way to improve your productivity and I'm going to try to emulate your strategy here with a few upcoming projects I have to work on and see how efficient I'm being.
Conor*20

For whomever reads this that is as innumerate as I am and is confused about the example simulation with the excel formula "=norminv(rand(), 15, (20–10)/3.29)", I hope my explanation below helps (and is correct!).

The standard error/deviation* of 3.29 is such because that's the correct value for the confidence interval of 90%. That number is determined by the confidence interval used. It is not the standard deviation of $10-$20. Don't ask me why, I don't know, yet. 

Additionally, you can't just paste that formula into excel. Remove the range (20-10) and ... (read more)

Conor20

So far, I think of Strategy as a method for determining tactics to achieve a goal, and may include developing a step-by-step plan. I see a variety of techniques fitting this framework: 

  • focusing: to see if I'm conflicted about my goal.
  • theory of change: to formulate a plan tracing potential actions backward from my goal to my current state
  • murphyjitsu: to identify and prepare for threats to success for the strategy and the tactics.
  • goal factoring: to assess behaviors that compose the strategy and tactics and combine them to better achieve the end.
  • research
... (read more)
Conor*40

How has your strategy (a-h) changed since you wrote this? Are there resources you can share for learning to be more strategic? A method for finding quality resources? Methods for practicing and assessing strategic skill?

3Zvi
There will be plenty of accepters until after it ends. So I think what this changes is it reduces the favorable selection in vaccination, because you can't do as many vulnerable people, reducing death rate cut somewhat. Nursing home residents who don't vaccinate should still benefit a lot from local here immunity. From what I saw, the elderly refusal rate was relatively low but good data is lacking.
Conor30

Could you expand on what makes the typography noteworthy? I'm completely unaware of this topic, but curious.

6Demeter
Good question. I will try to explain why the typography is noteworthy, rather than the mechanics of making it so. First, the small sans-serif font here is exceptionally readable. That isn't easy. Site-specific browser magnification is typically necessary on other websites. Next, there is the range of choice offered within the user interface for comments. Having a choice of LaTeX, markdown, rich text (as well as built in features such as footnotes) for posts would be unusual, yet LW offers it for comments as well! Finally, please see gwern's examples for LW2 linked above. I find GreaterWrong challenging to read, and confusing to navigate. Not for me, but maybe for thee! ReadTheSequences uses serif fonts but has traditional typographical elements that give it elegance, yet is still spaced and kerned such that it is easily readable. The more elegant typeface is used sparingly, for important LW1 posts which is part of good typography too. Hope that helps.
Conor*10

Jacob Fisker has a method called the reverse fishbone diagram.

You draw a horizontal line and that is the action.

Above the line you draw a diagonal forward slanted line for each positive first order effect of taking that action and below you do the same for negative effects.

On those initial branches, you branch off second order effects, up or down pointed depending on their valence until you have a sketch roughly resembling a fish skeleton with as many orders of effects as you can come up with.

You then count the upward and downward lines and compare how the... (read more)

Conor10

System 1 doesn't make sense?

Conor30

Applied rationality: Methods for fostering quick, efficient, and well-informed decision-making toward a goal.

Winter is nearly here and you need a door for your house to keep out the cold. In your workspace there is a large block of an unknown type of wood. Using only what you can assertain about it from your senses and experiences, you determine which tool to use for each circumstance you uncover as you reduce the block into the best door you can make given the time, tools, and knowledge available.

Edit: thanks for the post. It was very helpful.