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You didn't talk about any self-fulfilling negative correlations. A volvo doesn't prevent accidents, just makes the accidents less deadly, so it may actually be the more reckless drivers that take them so they can continue to be reckless (this effect may be much smaller though) or parents that choose a safe car for their reckless teen. Another example is when seatbelts were introduced, the owners of cars with them became more reckless because they thought they were safer, and actually ended up in more accidents (though the death rate of drivers remained a... (read more)

0[anonymous]
But does this mean that 'safer' and 'less safe' is meaningless for someone choosing a car? I mean, if I have never driven 'for real', without the instructor and with people I like very much sitting next to me, I do want a safer car; but I have no way to know if I am, on average, 'more reckless' or 'less reckless' than other drivers. And with all of these balancing effects, if I have previously found myself leaning towards buying a Volvo, now I have to doubt, vaguely, whether I want a Volvo because I actually think it would give me more leeway to drive poorly, which is, given my inexperience, even more dangerous. It would seem then, that not only 'safe' doesn't cut reality at its joints, but 'reckless' doesn't cut it, too, and I suspect that if we separate 'recklessness' into things like 'rileability', 'doggedness', 'attention', 'speed of reaction', whatever, they would turn out to not work that well... And how am I supposed to decide upon something as 'high level' as 'what car to buy'?
0Spectral_Dragon
Yes, as human beings we're great at compensating. When anti-lock brakes were introduced, it made it safer to drive. Accidents stayed the same, since people drove more recklessly - they were after all safer now, weren't they? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation
2Luke_A_Somers
This is raised briefly in the last paragraph before 'Applications to machine learning...'

There is a great ted lecture on this subject. I thought he did a good job at addressing the concerns. At least to the point of defending that research should continue to at least allow future generations to decide if they think it is acceptable.

http://www.ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html