Jonas Hallgren

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I was doing the same samadhi thing with TMI and I was looking for insight practices from there. My teacher (non dual thai forest tradition) said that the burmese traditions sets up a bit of a strange reality dualism and basically said that the dark night of the soul is often due to developing concentration before awareness, loving kindness and wisdom.

So I'm mahamudra pilled now (pointing out the great way is a really good book for this). I do still like the insight model you proposed, I'm still reeling a bit from the insights I got during my last retreat so it seems true.

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Sure! Anything more specific that you want to know about? Practice advice or more theory?

There is a specific part of this problem that I'm very interested in and that is about looking at the boundaries of potential sub-agents. It feels like part of the goal here is to filter away potential "daemons" or inner optimisers so it feels kind of important to think of ways one can do this?

I can see how this project would be valuable even without it but do you have any thoughts about how you can differentiate between different parts of a system that's acting like an agent to isolate the agentic part?

I otherwise find it a very interesting research direction.

Disclaimer: I don't necessarily support this view, I thought about it for like 5 minutes but I thought it made sense.

If we were to do things the same thing as other slowing down of regulation, then that might make sense, but I'm uncertain that you can take the outside view here? 

Yes, we can do the same as for other technologies by leaving it down to the standard government procedures to make legislation and then I might agree with you that slowing down might not lead to better outcomes. Yet, we don't have to do this. We can use other processes that might lead to a lot better decisions. Like what about proper value sampling techniques like digital liquid democracy? I think we can do a lot better than we have in the past by thinking about what mechanism we want to use.

Also, for some potential examples, I thought of cloning technology in like the last 5 min. If we just went full-speed with that tech then things would probably have turned out badly? 

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The Buddha with dependent origination. I think it says somewhere that most of the stuff in Buddhism was from before the Buddha's time. These are things such as breath-based practices and loving kindness, among others. He had one revelation that made the entire enlightenment thing basically which is called dependent origination.*

*At least according to my meditation teacher, I believe him since he was a neuroscientist and astrophysics masters at Berkeley before he left for India though so he's got some pretty good epistemics.

It basically states that any system is only true based on another system being true. It has some really cool parallels to Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem but on a metaphysical level. Emptiness of emptiness and stuff. (On a side note I can recommend TMI + Seeing That Frees if you want to experience som radical shit there.)

This was a great post, thank you for making it!

I wanted to ask what you thought about the LLM-forecasting papers in relation to this literature? Do you think there are any ways of applying the uncertainty estimation literature to improve the forecasting ability of AI?:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.18563.pdf

I like the post and generally agree. Here's a random thought on the OOD generalization. I feel that often we talk about how being good at 2 or 3 different things allow for new exploration. If you believe in books such as Range, then we're a lot more creative when combining ideas from multiple different fields. I rather think of multiple "hulls" (I'm guessing this isn't technically correct since I'm a noob at convex optimisation.) and how to apply them together to find new truths. 

 

Damn, great post, thank you!

I saw that you used Freedom; random tip is to use the appblock app instead, as it is more powerful as well as cold turkey blocker on the computer. (If you want to there are ways to get around the other blockers)

That's all I wanted to say really, I will probably try it out in the future. I was thinking of giving myself an allowance or something similar to what I could spend on the app and see if it would increase my productivity. 

I think Neurallink already did this actually, a bit late to the point but a good try anyway. Also, have you considered having Michael Bay direct the research effort? I think he did a pretty good job with the first Transformers.

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