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That's a very sound (pun partially intended) insight, and I don't immediately see a significant reason for why that shouldn't be the case.

However, humans aren't perfectly uniform spheres of water (to borrow from a common physics joke), so some concerns do still exist. Namely: Pressure might propagate through them less predictably/quickly than just water, and different areas of the body might begin freezing at different pressures/in different orders (which can, however, be countered by raising pressures quickly).

I have updated significantly in the direction of "This idea might actually be very valuable to cryonics proponents," for sure.

5[anonymous]
Which is why, I think, it's better to start from sea mammals and not shrimp; imagine if, for some reason, tiny ice crystals damage blood vessels - not even due to bloodflow - and upon thawing all those clotting factors are immediately, chaotically released. It can even happen in the brain.

First off, I love that you're actively pursuing alternative methods of human preservation. That's awesome, and I hope you manage to find some useful ideas in your search. However, I fear that this approach in particular doesn't really solve the problem that cryoprotectants successfully do (toxicity briefly aside).

without cryoprotectants the water will expand upon freezing, and break the cells.

This line in particular is my biggest point of contention. I am by no means an expert in this field, and my understanding may be moot in this context, but the exp... (read more)

maxikov160

It seems like the approach of cooling the organism to -30C at 350MPa, and then raising pressure further to ~600Mps to freeze it could actually solve that. As far as I understand, the speed of diffusion in water it far slower that the speed of sound (speed of sound at 25C is 1497 m/s, while diffusion coefficient for protons at 25C is 9.31e-5 cm^2/s, which corresponds to 1.4e-4 m/s - 8 orders of magnitude less), which is the speed of pressure gradient propagation. So if we use raising pressure as a way to initiate phase transition, it will occur nearly simul... (read more)

The ritual has been completed. I await my karmic reword, as per tradition.

There was a lot of good variance in the calibration questions (for me), so nice job thinking of them! Gur ivqrb tnzr dhrfgvba va cnegvphyne fhecevfrq zr jura V ybbxrq hc gur nafjre, nf rira nf n uhtr Zvarpensg sna V unqa'g ernyvmrq vg orng bhg frpbaq cynpr ol 3 zvyyvba.

Also, in a fit of needless cleverness, I made my public key decryptable (by my private key) into a plaintext message that works as an extra layer of identification in the case that I win the money.

I think ordering/ranking experiences would be more successful (in general) than trying to just give them scores.

An example of such a system: Every ping asks you to briefly describe the previous hour, and then shows you a list of every other ping you've written for the last week/month or so. You then put the description wherever it fits in the list, above everything that was less fun to experience, and below everything that was more fun.

In this way it's very easy to notice happiness trends (whether or not you're getting happier or sadder over time) without worrying about associating the same activity with the same score, even if it's becoming less or more fun to do.

0Steven_Bukal
My worry in that case would be present conditions bleeding into the memory and evaluation of those earlier pings. For example, I'd expect that when you're hungry your relative ranking of past ping moments is going to change to more heavily weigh moments when you were eating.

Tsuyoku naritai indeed! I haven't been keeping up with the story since my original binge back when book 2 as still in-progress, and you've really been getting things done, wow. Keep it up!

To start off with something everyone here will be interested in, I've recently and finally finished the first part of my video version of The Useful Idea of Truth (LW post here, Youtube link here). It seems well liked, and I'm even wondering if I should've posted it to Main. To understand what finishing this project means to me may be hard, as it means a lot. I have learned a ton doing this, and am really happy with the final look. My previous video editing experience was basically putting still frames and videos in sequential order with a spoken voice ove... (read more)

2Viliam_Bur
Congratulations! I have never tried editing a video, but people I know who are good at it say it is a lot of work, even for a simple video. Well, you will have to prioritize: choose only the topics where you believe the value of the video is highest (or where you believe you will learn much more from doing this specific video than from other videos). I'm conflicted. The video is awesome! The article itself, that's just two short paragraphs and two hyperlinks. Would it be possible to include the video in the article the next time? To make it more obvious that we are voting about the video, not about a link to the video. Actually, I think this video deserves even better place than merely a link from Main, which will scroll down and disappear in a few months. Putting in on the LW front page would be probably too much. But I could imagine including it in a wiki page, and linking that wiki page specifically from the LW front page. Perhaps the wiki page should include more high-quality educational videos (I'm thinking about the "Straw Vulcan" lecture now). Something a newcomer who prefers watching videos to reading texts could easily find and see. Opinions? Where should this video be? [pollid:780] Would you like to share what you learned? Either in comments, or in an article. If other people could learn from you, the work on future videos could be shared. (Yeah, you would also help your competition, but you already have thousands of competitors anyway.) You could also get some interesting advice in the comments. You'll never know unless you try. (You also don't know if you will be able to do the work for a long time, or if it gets boring later.) If it's not difficult/costly, you could just make a Patreon account now and see... worst case, nothing happens; at least you get empirical data. Also, there is a chance that the future will show you an alternative good outcome, for example, if you make a few good videos, maybe you will not get enough ad/Patreon money, but som

That's one of my larger concerns about this format, actually. Only watching one video, out of the context of the others, could be more harmful than good. Even videos that are more independently consumable than this one run into the problem that knowing about biases can hurt people.

However, I think (eventually) having a large bank of videos for viewers to binge on, and including links directly to related LW posts I haven't yet covered is a good enough band-aid to assuage that worry.

I don't really, though I did show the video to a couple people while making it, at different in-progress points, but there was never the specific instruction to look for spelling errors. If there is anyone here interesting in joining such a group for official "proofreading" purposes, comment here or send me a PM. I'll get to organizing a mailing list/subreddit/something to suit the purpose.

Thank you for the feedback! I do plan to make many more, but unfortunately, these videos will easily have 2 or more months between each other, unless I can get the income to support myself working on them near full time. This little project took >80 hours of work.

As of now, I don't plan to go back and fix small errors, like misspellings. It's possible, and I do apreciate you pointing them out where they exist, but it's a lot of trouble to do.

3Dustin
Do you have someone to help you for future videos? I mean, just one other person to help you would probably cut down on mistakes like misspellings quite a bit.

I agree with you. If you pay attention, you'll notice the overall presentation of the text changes dramatically as the video goes forward. This correlates to the lessons I learned in real time while making it, and the earlier video is only like the way it is because I didn't feel like going back and changing things was an important enough of an improvement to warrant the effort.

The /domain/ use of Reddit is not something I'd ever heard of before. It seems like a very nice tool, and I'm glad you've shared it.

That's fantastic advice, and it's made me realize a lesson in gradually adapting my design decisions.

My original plans included (mostly) kinetic typography with the occasional visual aid. The elaborate style used for presenting the text was the main mechanic for capturing attention and differentiating it from an audiobook. As work was being done, however, I started adding more visualizations, and making the visualizations more compelling, more the point of focus, and otherwise moving into animating scenarios than animating words. The text, to not distract ... (read more)

2Dorikka
Just as a heads-up (now that I'm typing on a real keyboard), I'm glad that you're taking the time to illustrate/animate these concepts, and overall I really like the part that I've seen. Thanks for the good work so far, and I hope that you keep going with it.

The final product will be 720x1280, so hopefully that isn't a significant problem. I'll try and keep wider kerning/spacing in mind as I move forward, though. Thank you for the feedback!

My work on converting The Useful Idea of Truth into a video is going well. I didn't successfully anticipate the time that would be necessary to finish, but things are getting done at an acceptable pace. The best thing I can say, for sure, is that the overall style and presentation of the work has come a nice way forward since the start of this project, especially after working in some of the suggestions and impressions I've gotten from people.

(Included here is a short GIF of one of the recent portions that I'm particularly fond of, so additional criticism ... (read more)

1Vulture
My first impression is that the text looks very cramped - it would probably be very difficult to read from far away.
Dorikka100

Typing just criticism because typing on tablet: the text seems to site to appear very slowly, and I become instantly frustrated because I can't read it at normal speed

Ignore this. It is a test of embedding images in LessWrong's comments.

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My comment in the previous thread.

I'd like to share a finished portion of my "Useful Idea of Truth" video for minor feedback, if people are interested in seeing it. The Sally-Anne task explained.

Let me know what you like, what you don't, and if you think these videos will be worth the time I put into them.

I'm a little surprised I haven't gotten more complaints like that, actually. Anything to refine the look, feel, and overall usability of what I make is great to hear, so keep up the complaining! The final product will, however, be a video with a voice saying everything the kinetic text does, so hopefully the difficulty of reading is mitigated by the ability to listen instead/as well. Should that not be the case, it's very easy for me to do less elaborate text in future videos.

As I understand the situation, converting the main Sequences into a long series of short, well presented online videos would be awesome and a valuable resource (examples of the imagined format of such videos include the Youtube channels CGP Grey and CrashCourse) . I'm currently working on turning a Less Wrong post (The 1st 3rd of The Useful Idea of Truth) into one such video, and had a thought. Is it within the interests of either MIRI or CFAR to fund the production of video versions of Less Wrong posts? It's something I'm interested in starting dialogue a... (read more)

22ZctE
Agreed, these would be more shareable than lw posts. I thought you were being a little too fancy with the kinetic style text. The added difficulty in reading it compared to something more linear and clean/minimal was small but enough to make it harder to read it and still watch the illustrations at the same time. That might just be my taste, I am the one asking about attention disorders downthread after all, and I don't want to take away from the fact that it's cool you're actually taking time to do something when it's far more common to just fling ideas out there (which is fine too).

I've not personally finished my own arrangements, but I'll likely be using whole life of some kind. I do know that Rudi Hoffman is an agent well recommended by people who've gone the insurance route, so talking to him will likely get you a much better idea of what choices people make (A small warning, his sight is not the prettiest thing). You could also contact the people recommended on Alcor's Insurance Agents page, if you so desire.

Is that "I'm sure I'll manage somehow" because thinking about the problem is uncomfortable so you're brain is creating a comforting excuse, or because you've known yourself to solve similarly difficult problems in the past? I ask because you don't want to get burnt later if it's the former, and I've personally had experiences (read: problems) with a long distance relationship.

Two TDT players have 3 plausible outcomes to me, it seems. This comes from my admittedly inexperienced intuitions, and not much rigorous math. The 1st two plausible points that occurred to me are 1)both players choose C,Y, with certainty, or 2)they sit at exactly the equilibrium for p1, giving him an expected payout of 3, and p2 an expected payout of .5. Both of these improve on the global utility payout of 3 that's gotten if p1 just chooses A (giving 6 and 3.5, respectively), which is a positive thing, right?

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Where did the brain diagram on the front page go? Is it just an error on my end, or has that actually been removed from the site?

6Vladimir_Nesov
The change is intentional. See the wiki edit (by Jackk from Trike).
8Nornagest
It's gone for me too, but I don't think it'll last. This has happened before, and I think we're looking at either an intermittent glitch on the server side or some kind of resource issue. Personally, though, I'd be just as happy to see it stay gone. It's ugly; it takes up real estate it doesn't need to; and most importantly it's not all that useful for its apparent niche as a guide to newcomers, adding little that the header bar doesn't already have. The article lists aren't too hot either; the stuff they link to is usually years old and the aggregation function seems to be doing some kind of dumb association that usually clusters around some uninteresting keyword. I liked it better when the front page just mirrored Main, although aggregating Main and Discussion might be a better move these days.

Here's something that might net you successes of a similar kind, rejection therapy. It's much less official than it might immediately sound, as it's an entirely self imposed challenge. You may find yourself asking for and getting a lot more than you realized you could, as well as becoming more comfortable doing it.

It's easy to forget that first person shooters already have plenty of game modes with strictly defined victory conditions that make fun to play watch matches. Team Fortress 2 has arena mode, which seems like it has very appropriate win conditions for a war game. Teams must eliminate each other, or capture a central point that unlocks after a set amount of time to win. It discourages fleeing and hiding if your team is mostly eliminated, because you'll lose anyway when the point unlocks. In general all you should need is one clearly defined goal for at lea... (read more)

While I hate to say this, the numbers are much less important than the explanation of what they mean. I thought "lifetime of debt", and then made up the costs in a way to sound realistic-ish. The world-building is probably pretty inconsistent. That is a Bad Author thing to do, but it is super common in the majority of popular stories (I'm looking at you Galleons from Harry Potter).

This is correct. Betting, as a policy, helps distinguish between Orin(correct) and Orin(wrong), but is really only useful for eliminating Orin(spy) because it's a novel method that the King expects spies to yet be unprepared for, and is easily investigated if circumvented.

Imagine, If Orin is wrong and yet mysteriously has all his debts re-paid and shop re-purchased shortly after being punished, some eyebrows would be raised.

0gwern
I'm sure they would be, but alas, that will happen long after the kingdom has been conquered after being driven into financial ruin by listening to foreign informants who work for their enemies.

Gwern, I happen to agree with most of what you've said, if this were written in regards to x-risks. It is in fact irrelevant to UFAI, but was mostly an exercise in a) practicing writing, and b) working through some intuitions in regards to betting/prediction markets. I wrote it for LW because I assumed it would be enjoyed, but not really learned from (hence Discussion, not Main). A re-write would explore more thoroughly and explicitly the difference between Orin being correct, a spy, or mistaken, and how his bet changes those probabilities.

I suppose it mak... (read more)

0gwern
Why, then, did you choose an existential threat issue to base the entire story on when you know how many issues those bring up for prediction markets with regard to incentives and counterparty risk and the difficulty of 'betting on the apocalypse'? You should have chosen an issue more clearly within prediction markets' scope.

Fixed, thank you. I'd hate to think the King turned himself into a waterway.

The Wayback Machine, of course. Thanks.

I suppose I lose a rationalist point for failing to use a tool I'm already familiar with to solve my problem.

Connected to this: A preemptive favor is more likely to result in later requests (even if larger than the initial favor) being fulfilled, but the end result may or may not be a more positive opinion of you. The abstract of this paper seems to indicate increased liking of a stranger that does this, but paywalls and general laziness prevent me from getting a more comprehensive idea of what can happen.

This is a nice comment. It's a useful frame of reference and I especially like it because it jives well with the intuitions I've developed since I started studying Economics. And probably my identity as a Neat Person and someone who enjoys experiences over things.

As a general point the "off topic" complaint is used too much to shut down what I think would be valuable contributions to the site. If we're only ever allowed to talk about rationality, but not demonstrate ourselves using it, then we've make a community-crafting mistake.

For everyone seeing this in the "recent comments" section, does there exist a record of this comment? It seems like it was really useful and it's a shame it was completely nuked.

3jaime2000
Ctrl+F "good deed"

It's clear that LessWrong disagrees with you, but in the spirit of challenging my assumptions I'm asking you for any substantive sources that support your claim.

Or less substantively, where did you hear/why do you believe that?

2knb
Relevant keyword is intermittent fasting

I think something that touches closely to what you're trying to do is Rational Poker, which is using poker to train your bias overcoming skill. Specifically the This is what 5% feels like. exercise. The idea is that you can combine your explicitly calculated chance of winning a hand with your gut feeling enough times that they begin matching up. You'll eventually understand what 5%, 10%, 50%, or 90% actually feel like from the inside. Unfortunately, Im uncertain how well this gut feeling generalizes, so using it to determine probabilities outside of areas you've trained it for may be less successful.

This is beautiful and really useful seeming. I'm happy it exists, so thanks for making it.

1[anonymous]
You're welcome! It doubled as a pedagogical introduction to jQuery, so usefulness all around. Sidenote: I want this to be as useful as possible to as many people as possible, but I'm not sure how to promote it without seeming spammy.

I have reduced my discomfort with talking to anyone about anything, especially requests for help/information. Instead of avoiding talking to people like my parents, teachers, or businesses due to some odd, misplaced anxiety I've successfully started noticing this pattern and purposefully overcoming it.

Examples include:

  • Talking to my family about wanting to move to Australia, instead of putting it off until the last minute.

  • Calling several local banks and asking about shadowing opportunities, something unfamiliar to both me and the banks.

It's not incr... (read more)

You made a thing that's being used by other people. People who are paying you to use it. That's pretty great!

Survey taken.

I found the Europe question awesome because I, incredibly luckily, had checked Europe's total population for a Fermi estimate just yesterday, so I got to feel like a high accuracy, highly calibrated badass. Of course, that also means it's not good data for things that I learned greater than ~1 day ago.

1A1987dM
Having seen this map a couple months ago hugely helped me with that question, BTW.

I dont disagree with the idea of an A.I. Intelligence explosion, but I do think their argument is the wrong one. It is a fairly common idea though, especially from semi-laypeople, so I'm not surprised to have seen it in their video.

Everything else in the video seemed roughly accurate, though.

Is there a LW consensus on the merits of Bitcoin? Namely, is it the optimal place to invest money, especially in regards to mining equipment?

I think the value is liable to increase fairly dramatically over time, and that buying/mining Bitcoins will prove incredibly profitable, but I'd like the input of this community before I decide whether or not to put money forth for this venture.

1ChristianKl
For bitcoin being an efficient online currency, the transaction fees make it impractical. Ripple provides a much better way of doing micropayments. If one would want to build a way to make a router provide payed access to anyone who comes along, Ripple is a better technology. The same goes for renting VPN on demand and similar tasks. It much easier to imagine that some third world country shifts from using prepayed mobile cards for distant currency transfers to using Ripple than that they shift to using bitcoins. Ripple allows an entity in the country to play bank and issue currency. That means that a village in Africa where everyone has a smart phone could just decide that the village government issues currency and demands that taxes get payed in that currency. The village can issue enough currency that the whole economy of the village runs in the currency. On the other hand a village in Africa can't simply switch to bitcoin, because they would have to buy them expensively and they don't have money to do so. Ripple also has the advantage of payments clearing much faster than bitcoin payments Ripple allows to make payments in Dollar or in Euro if you want to do so without having any risk of fluctuating exchange risks that you have with bitcoin. Maybe another process will even improve on Ripple but I think Ripple is superior to bitcoin for most purposes, so Bitcoin won't stand a chance over the long run. Ripple has also the advantage that it has a business model that can pay for developers so I would expect it to get more development hours than bitcoin.
-6Izeinwinter
0Vaniver
I have not seen a significant LW consensus. My view is that it is unreasonable to expect one can time the market effectively, and so one should invest in Bitcoin based on the long term prospects, which are either $0 per coin or hundreds of thousands / a million per coin, in which case the probability of hitting the upper end is the primary factor of interest. Unfortunately, my estimate of the probability that it'll take off is roughly linear in the price, which means I don't consider price shifts very informative, which means it's always a hard decision to be in or out.
gwern180

My general impression about mining is that right now it's a horrible idea to get involved in it as the necessary investment/expertise keeps increasing and there seems to be a problem where there's a big pipeline of already-paid-for ASICs which cannot justify their purchase cost but where the least lossy strategy is to run them and recoup as much of the loss as possible (which pushes up the difficulty massively and makes additional capital investments awful ideas). If one wants exposure, buying bitcoins seems like the best approach right now.

6Adele_L
Here are some previous discussions of Bitcoin on LW. There doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. Personally, I find this argument to be a compelling reason for optimism. I put a toy amount of money into bitcoin several months ago, and I am quite pleased with that experiment, and I'm considering putting some more money in. Incidentally, does anyone know if there is a good prediction market site for bitcoins? I know of a few, but I've heard bad things about them.

I had not, actually. The link you've given just links me to Google's homepage, but I did just search LW for "Tulpa" and found it fine, so thanks regardless.

edit: The link's original purpose now works for me. I'm not sure what the problem was before, but it's gone now.

Does anyone here have any serious information regarding Tulpas? When I first heard of them they immediately seemed to be the kind of thing that is obviously and clearly a very bad idea, and may not even exist in the sense that people describe them. A very obvious sign of a persons who is legitimately crazy, even.

Naturally, my first re-reaction is the desire to create one myself (One might say I'm a bit contrarian by nature). I don't know any obvious reason not to (ignoring social stigma and time consuming initial investment), And there may be some advantag... (read more)

4Ishaan
There's tons of easily discovered information on the web about it. I'm not sure the Tulpa-crowed would agree with this, but I think a non-esoteric example of Tulpas in everyday life is how some religious people say that God really speaks and appears to them. The "learning process" and stuff seem pretty similar - the only difference I can see is that in the case of Tulpas it is commonly acknowledged that the phenomenon is imaginary. Come to think of it, that's probably a really good method for creating Tulpas quickly - building off a real or fictional character for whom you already have a relatively sophisticated mental model. It's probably also important that you are predisposed to take seriously the notion that this thing might actually be an agent which interacts with you...which might be why God works so well, and why the Tulpa-crowed keeps insisting that Tulpas are "real" in the sense that they carry moral weight. It's an imagination-belief driven phenomenon. It might also illustrate some of the "dangers" - for example, some people who grew up with notions of the angry sort of God might always feel guilty about certain "sinful" things which they might not intellectually feel are bad. I've also heard claims of people who gain extra abilities / parallel processing / "reminders" with Tulpas....basically, stuff that they couldn't do on their own. I don't really believe that this is possible, and if this were demonstrated to me I would need to update my model of the phenomenon. To the tupla-community's credit, they seem willing to test the belief.
2ChristianKl
Tulpa creation is effectively the creation of a form of sentinent AI that runs on the hardware of your brain instead of silicon. That brings up a moral question. To what extend is it immoral to create a Tulpa and have it be in pain? Tulpa are supposed to suffer from not getting enough attention so if you can't commit to giving it a lot of attention for the rest of your life you might commit an immoral act by creating it.
2IlyaShpitser
Well, if you think that the human illusion of unified agency is a good ideal to strive for, it then seems that messing around w/ tulpas is a bad thing. If you have really seriously abandoned that ideal (very few people I know have), then knock yourself out!
0Vulture
Welp, look at that, I just found this thread after finishing up a long comment on the subject in an older thread. Go figure. (By the way, I do recommend reading that entire discussion, which included some actual tulpas chiming in).
-2Lumifer
A fairly obvious reason is that to generate a tulpa you need to screw up you mind in a sufficiently radical fashion. And once you do that, you may not be able to unfuck it back to normal. I vaguely recall (sorry, no link) reading a post by a psychiatrist who said that creating tulpas is basically self-induced schizophrenia. I don't think schizophrenia is fun.
-6Mitchell_Porter
4Tenoke
What is stopping is me is the possibility that I will be potentially permanently relinquishing cognitive resources for the sake of the Tulpa.
4Armok_GoB
I've been doing some research (mainly hanging on their subreddit) and I think I have a fairly good idea of how tulpas work and the answers to your questions. There are a myriad very different things tulpas are described as and thus "tulpas exist in the way people describe them" is not well defined. There undisputably exist SOME specific interesting phenomena that's the referent of the word Tulpa. I estimates a well developed tulpas moral status to be similar to that of a newborn infant, late-stage alzheimer's victim, dolphin, or beloved family pet dog. I estimates it's ontological status to be similar to a video game NPC, recurring dream character, or schizophrenic hallucination. I estimate it's power over reality to be similar to a human (with lower intelligence than their host) locked in a box and only able to communicate with one specific other human. It does not seem deciding to make a tulpa is a sign of being crazy. Tulpas themselves seem to not be automatically unhealthy and can often help their host overcome depression or anxiety. However, there are many signs that the act of making a tulpa is dangerous and can trigger latent tendencies or be easily done in a catastrophically wrong way. I estimate the risk is similar to doing extensive meditation or taking a single largeish dose of LSD. For this reason I have not and will not attempt making one. I am to lazy to find citations or examples right now but I probably could. I've tried to be a good rationalist and am fairly certain of most of these claims.
5TheOtherDave
Have you read the earlier discussions on this topic?

Not fan-fiction, really, as It's an original story, but it's more like one than not. A web serial, currently incomplete and described by the Author as a "rough draft" for an eventual book, but It' a self consistent and expansive Super-hero universe, and with a ton of unique and powerful abilities, I've really been enjoying it. The story is Worm, and It's easily one of my favorite web stories in awhile, and very dark (especially as the story progresses further).

Here is a direct copy of the author's about page as It sums up the premise well:

An in

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1OtherPeoplesShoes
Thanks for the recommendation. I wound up powering through Worm over the course of about a week, and really enjoyed it.

I understand this is from ages ago but is worth a response. See the Wiki page on Deep hypothermic circulatory arrest (a procedure used in some surgeries today):

Deep Hypothermic Circulatory Arrest (DHCA) is a surgical technique that involves cooling the body of the patient and stopping blood circulation.

The procedure requires keeping the patient in a state of hibernation at 12 - 18 degrees Celsius with no breathing, heartbeat, or brain activity for up to one hour. Blood is drained from the body to eliminate blood pressure. [emphasis mine]

The existence a... (read more)

-6Moss_Piglet

As someone who read Ender's Game at the age of 11, and consequently a lot more sci-fi since then, It took Eliezer's "You Only Live Twice" post six years later to properly elevate my knowledge of cryonics to actual conscious awareness. It took an actual proponent of the procedure telling me about it and that people are actually doing it in real life for me to notice it as a useful idea.

And the only thing I needed for convincing was the feasibility of the science, not any moral qualms about the implications of it all. I was (and still am) in the sa... (read more)

3Mestroyer
I remember reading a cartoon as a kid about cryonics which portrayed it cynically if I remember correctly. I didn't realize it was actually a thing people did, but I remember thinking "This sounds like something I would want to do in real life. There has to be some reason it wouldn't work though, because I'm hearing about it in a cartoon and not in real life."

You've now been marked as having tier 4 human usefulness by Clippy the Paperclip Maximizing AI due to the (now increased) iron content of your otherwise useless & fleshy body. The nano-swarm is on its way now.

You may prepare for processing as you see fit.

2Rukifellth
Think I'll wash that down with a hot steaming cup of gallium.

Point conceded. but no doubling up by mentioning this in future bragging threads.

hm.. A'd like "coolest thing", but as an encouraging factor, any awesome things, cumulative or otherwise, should be fine.

You're right. I've now got new information. Excuse me while I go try and discard my idea, and rethink the potential benefits of rewards again.

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