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maia70

What would a problem solving approach to this in the form of LW comments even look like?

Milan W1210

Historically, lesswrong has been better at truth-finding than at problem-solving. 

I hope that this thread is useful as a high signal-to-noise ratio source.

This site is very much a public forum, so I would advise any actor whishing to implement a problem-solving stance to coordinate in a secure manner.

maia31

Thanks, added that to the post! I made double last year and I think it was about 2 dozen, so that sounds about right.

maia50

The original recipe used eggs instead of banana and butter instead of coconut oil, so those are certainly doable as replacements. For other vegan options, I like chickpea flour as an egg replacer because it's cheap and shelf-stable, though there's also Just Egg or other commercial egg replacers. For the coconut oil, any solid fat will do, e.g. Crisco or any vegan butter (though most of those contain coconut oil).

maia40

I would suggest taking out the paganism verse in Bold Orion. We never use it, dunno about you guys.

4jefftk
Done; thanks!
Answer by maia161

Empirically my answer to this is yes: I'm due in January with my second.

When I had my first child, I was thinking in terms of longer timelines. I assumed before having them that it would not be worth having a child if the world ended within a few years of their birth, because I would be less happy and their utility wouldn't really be much until later.

One month after my first baby was born, I had a sudden and very deep feeling that if the world ended tomorrow, it would have been worth it.

YMMV of course, but having kids can be a very deep human experience that pays off much sooner than you might think.

maia20

Update:

Solstice is less than one week away! Here are a few updates that I promised.

Parking: When you arrive, follow signs for “Quaker Meeting” or “Country Day School.” Parking is permitted in gravel lot in the back of the meetinghouse, along the driveway on its left side, and along the side of Dogue Lane, the street on the right of the Meeting House. The Country Day School has allowed us to use their parking lot for the event, so you can also park in the paved lot to the left as you come in.

Childcare: I haven’t heard from anyone about this, and I was the o... (read more)

maia40

DC/Baltimore

December 2nd

FB event: https://www.facebook.com/events/1170803117213501/
LW event: https://www.lesswrong.com/events/86QzMxdEthKaPwQKw/dc-secular-solstice-1

Answer by maia70

I got a lot of value out of How to Manage Your Home Without Losing Your Mind: https://www.aslobcomesclean.com/book/

The high level takeaway is that these tasks become much more manageable when you establish a consistent set of habits and routines around them. There's a lot of very specific step by step advice for creating those habits. It's still the same amount of work, but feels less overwhelming once you have a grasp on how much work it actually is and experience with each task.

maia96

I don't see a way to click into individual charts to be able to zoom / see them in more detail. They're a bit crammed on the main page, which is fine for a summary but not great as the only way to view them.

In general it's a bit weird to have a news website with no way to click into a headline and see more information. Maybe that's OK for now, but it is surprising as a user. Perhaps you could link to or quote comments from the prediction market websites, or recent related news articles?

Are you using the same fonts as NYT? Probably better to use different o... (read more)

2vandemonian
This is useful feedback, thank you. Re headers and charts. I think what I will do is this: Click on headline --> separate page with full sized chart (and the news links, more info etc) Re fonts. Yes, the design is 'inspired' by the NYT (and the motto by WaPo). It's kinda meant to be little bit of a pretentious 'performance art' making fun of major newspapers. What if NYT was founded in the era of prediction markets? kinda thing Re formatting. Thanks, I've fixed the spacing. The borders is a deliberate choice believe it or not! The idea is to elevate the highest level headers (e.g. Russia-Ukraine) above the borders, to make it clear that a new topic has started. I tried 'fixing' the borders, but at least to my eyes it looked worse to be honest - I'll keep fidgeting... Thank you again! It will continue
maia40

I feel more EAs (or anyone who wants to eat ethically) should consider ameliatarianism if they find that veganism is too difficult, nutritionally or otherwise. It removes the vast majority of animal suffering from your diet, with very few nutritional concerns.

I'm also curious what you think about lacto-vegetarianism. It's a step between vegan and ameliatarian suffering-wise, but I'm not sure where it falls between the two in terms of nutritional difficulty. There's the example of the large and ancient lacto-vegetarian culture in India, but if you don't eat... (read more)

2Elizabeth
I'd want to spend more time with the numbers before committing to specifics, but tentatively I'm delighted my request got fulfilled a month ago without my knowledge.  As a compromise diet I think it's great, I'd be really happy if this became the new EAGlobal standard. My guess is poultry is easy to give up, nutritionally speaking, unless someone has a serious issue like a red meat allergy. People are weird and variable but there's nothing obvious poultry has that something else doesn't.  Giving up eggs and farmed fish is harder. My guess is that for many omnivores that would take some thought to work around, eggs are so goddamn convenient, but by no means insurmountable except for actual medical issues. Fish have special nutritional benefits and wildcaught are more expensive, although that may be fixable by switching to a cheaper species.  If I could make a few additions:  I would love to see organ meats get more airtime. They require different cooking skills and are less popular so no savings on that front, but relative to muscle meat they're more nutritious, have less fat, and contribute less to the marginal profit on livestock.  I'd also add mussels, which are neurologically plants, but I've never met anyone who could tolerate the taste. My guess is lacto-vegetarian cultures are healthy, but an American dropping down to lacto-vegetarianism has a high risk of implementing it poorly. For some it won't matter, and more people can do it with less effort than veganism, but many will require some thought. Probably most people can fix that with mussels, but then I also think most could fix veganism with mussels (and by fix I mean get back to the same level of health they had on an omnivorous diet, not necessarily optimal). Normally I'll admit to medical issues being a tail risk, lactose intolerance is incredibly common. The first sources on google say 68% of the population has lactose malabsorption. That's too high- it includes people with some limited ability to
maia41

You say you didn't care about age and sex, but I'm curious about the distribution in your participants. Menstruation is very relevant to iron deficiencies.

maia20

Although I enjoy the practice of Meeting, I actually really disagree with you about Quaker practices around decisionmaking. My local Meeting had some huge disagreements around COVID that weren't resolved at all well; from that and how disagreements are handled in general, it almost seems to me to be more of a Tyranny of Structurelessness[1] kind of situation, where conflict is handled via backchanneling and silently routing around disagreements and leaning on people who disagree to let it go.

Frankly I just don't think consensus is a good decisionmaking method at all.

[1] https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm

2Nathan Helm-Burger
Well, I do think it has significant weaknesses, such as being vulnerable to falling into bad patterns such as you have discussed. I've also seen it go poorly sometimes. But when it works well, I've found that it works really well at getting people to understand each others viewpoints and genuinely build empathy and make people feel happier about compromises that must be made, and make people do a better job at searching for novel win-win solutions. But I agree that it can't be used 'as is'. I just think that the core elements are something worth keeping in mind for designing novel decision-making systems. For instance, what if the participants each had an AI advocate who was trained on their own point of view, and these AI advocates went through a simulated consensus process at 1000s of times human speed, and then the result was a personalized report for each human summarizing the others points of view in a way designed for the particular person to be able to understand, and suggesting a compromise maximized for win-win solutions.
maia20

Thank you for writing these up! I think they are good guidelines for making discussion more productive.

Are these / are you planning to put these in a top level post as well?

maia31

EA is currently still the final frontier for every vegan everywhere, for example, including those in professional networks such as government policy. 

EA is the ultimate destination for virtually all vegans in the world right now

I'm not that familiar with the vegan/animal rights community. What do you mean by this, can you elaborate? I thought animal rights was a large movement in its own right, separate from EA?

2Dagon
What causes are core to EA, and not separate (or at least separable and probably should be separate) movements in their own right?
maia91

That all makes sense. It does feel like this is worth a larger conversation now that people are thinking about it, and I don't think you guys are the only ones.

I'm reminded of this Sam Altman tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/sama/status/1621621724507938816

6Noosphere89
To give credit where it's due, I'm impressed that someone could ask the question whether EA and Rationality were net negative from our values, and while I suspect that an honest investigation would say it wasn't net negative, as Scott Garrabrant said, Yes requires the possibility of No, and there's an outside chance of an investigation returning that EA/Rationality is net negative. Also, I definitely agree that we probably should talk about things that are outside the Overton Window more. Re Sam Altman's tweet, I actually think this is reasonably neutral, from my vantage point, maybe because I'm way more optimistic on AI risk and AI Alignment than most of LW.
maia4327

"The EA and rationality communities might be incredibly net negative" is a hell of a take to be buried in a post about closing offices.

:-(

Raemon157

Part of the point here is Oli, Ben and the rest of the team are still working through our thoughts/feelings on the subject, didn't feel in a good space to write any kind "here's Our Take™" post. i.e the point here was not meant to do "narrative setting"

But, it seemed important to get the information about our reasoning out there. I felt it was valuable to get some version of this post shipped soon, and this was the version we all felt pretty confident about rushing out the door without angsting about exactly what to say.

(Oli may have a somewhat different frame about what happened and his motivations)

maia30

Quick warning about The Steerswoman: It's a wonderful series that is incomplete, with a pretty big cliffhanger at the end of the last book. That book came out in 2004, and the last mention I can find on Rosemary Kirstein's blog is in 2021, saying that she was "taking a breather" on the next one.

1Screwtape
The warning is appreciated! I'm an O. S. Card fan so I have to have a high tolerance for long cliffhangers XD
maia*3-1

Therapy is already technically possible to automate with ChatGPT. The issue is that people strongly prefer to get it from a real human, even when an AI would in some sense do a "better" job.

EDIT: A recent experiment demonstrating this: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/chatgpt-ai-experiment-mental-health-tech-app-koko-rcna65110

2[anonymous]
Note also that therapists are supposed to be trained not to say certain things and to talk a certain way. chatGPT unmodified can't be relied on to do this. You would need to start with another base model and RLHF train it to meet the above and possibly also have multiple layers of introspection where every output is checked. Basically you are saying therapy is possible with demonstrated AI tech and I would agree It would be interesting if as a stunt an AI company tried to get their solution officially licensed, where only bigotry of "the applicant has to be human" would block it.
maia51

It's hard to predict what careers will make sense in an AI-inflected world where we're not all dead. Still, I have the feeling that certain careers are better bets than others: basically Baumol-effect jobs where it is essential (or strongly preferred) that the person performing the task is actually a human being. So: therapist, tutor, childcare, that sort of thing.

5Matthew Barnett
Huh. Therapists and tutors seem automatable within a few years. I expect some people will always prefer an in-person experience with a real human, but if the price is too high, people are just going to talk to a language model instead. However, I agree that childcare does seem like it's the type of thing that will be hard to automate. My list of hard to automate jobs would probably include things like: plumber, carpet installer, and construction work.
3Noosphere89
Yeah, the most AI resistant jobs are jobs that will require human like emotions/therapeutic jobs. I won't say they're immune to AI with high probability, but they're the jobs I most expect to see humans working in 50-100 years.
maia81

There's no contradiction. There are two competing sides of the evolutionary process: one side is racing to understand intentions as well as possible, the other side is racing to obscure its intentions, in this case by not having them consciously.

maia40

This is a recent story of this type: https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad

MCTB also has some more descriptions of bad meditation experiences.

maia6-3

I don't think "taking ideas too seriously" is what went wrong here. Their actions are just too insane and frankly random and nonsensical to fit that model.

2Raemon
My guess is that "taking ideas seriously" played a role in the chain somewhere, but some of the ideas are about how to think-internally, or the second-order effects of having taken something seriously.

“Taking ideas too seriously” is unlikely to be what went wrong with Ziz, but I do think that it’s a large part of what went wrong with all the misguided individuals who’ve allowed themselves to be drawn into Ziz’s orbit, have adopted Ziz’s bizarre perspectives, etc.

maia20

We're doing a followup weekly accountability video call on Sundays at 6pm for just 15 minutes. (I've scheduled it to be every week from now until mid-June.) You're welcome to join for the accountability call even if you weren't able to make it to the meetup today; just DM me your email so I can add you to the invite.

maia20

Reading this post was a bit of a lightbulb moment for me, because I read it and went "ohhh, that's the thing other people are talking about happening to them when they talk about what an easy trap it is to fall into scrupulosity and stuff." This might also explain why I don't feel that much at home with the EA community even though I'm on board with basically all the main propositions and have donated a bunch.

My brain just doesn't do the "get hijacked by other people's values" thing anymore. I think it got burned too much by me doing that in my late teens ... (read more)

maia191

Seems worth mentioning that Screwtape is now the ACX/Rationality global meetups coordinator, which I feel gives him a certain degree of moral authority to run this (not to mention the other stuff he mentions about how the LW team was aware of his plans).

maia20

Please note that this has been POSTPONED two weeks to Feb 5th (I have COVID and don't want to give it to all of you).

maia20

Feedback form for those who attended: https://forms.gle/NJUJYHNnN8G9h2go9

maia20

Hey folks! Solstice is a singalong event; singing is actively encouraged. However, some of you may be new or just not familiar with the songs we sing. So I've put together this list of songs so you can check them out beforehand if you'd like: https://tigrennatenn.neocities.org/solstice_2022.html

If you only listen to one of these, make it Brighter than Today. https://youtu.be/OHJmYyp6f4s?t=294

maia40

Having spent a good amount of time on Google Memegen myself, I think what you describe would actually be a misuse of the "guy drinking beer" meme. It's supposed to be something about laziness (so an EA-flavored related meme here would be something like: "earning to give does more harm than good? better do nothing!"). It's based on the original burned-out-college-student/lazy-college-senior meme, where the punchline is supposed to be that you're happy you don't have to do some task.

maia20

There's actually a big problem with using Brier scores for open-ended questions like this, which is that the optimal option if you're, say, 50% confident you have the right answer, is to instead report "Don't know / bleeblabloo, probability 0.0001". Then you get a good Brier score for knowing you would be wrong.

We ran this at our meetup today and it was the subject of much discussion. A big conclusion seemed to be that Brier scores work best when there is a fixed, limited number of possibilities to guess from; when the number of possibilities is large/unkn... (read more)

1Screwtape
The quick hack I'd use if I didn't want people to be able to easily guess wrong with high certainty would be to use True/False or multiple choice questions. That said, I don't currently think of this as a big problem? There are two scores; Calibration and Correct Answers. If someone has remarkably good calibration and almost no correct answers, then they're probably deliberately guessing outlandish answers and being sure that they're wrong. That's not worth bragging rights, it's the equivalent of running to the side of the obstacles on an obstacle course. Someone who's correctly 20% confident on most of the questions can get a lower Brier but six Correct Answer points, or an excellent Brier and zero Correct Answer points, and the former is (to me) more impressive. If you are actually totally clueless, then "[wrong answer] with probability epsilon" is actually the right response.  "I notice that I don't actually know this" is (in my opinion) a useful skill to pick up, if you can avoid also picking up "I should pretend that I know nothing." Still, the option to make it multiple choice exists, and there might be a better scoring rule. (I deliberately avoided making some kind of combined score, because I didn't want less obvious strategic exchange rates between correct answers and calibration.)
maia30

DC

More info: https://www.lesswrong.com/events/znhpFMsfXEStFEywN/dc-secular-solstice

maia113

I skipped through 90% of the text of this example without it detracting much from the main point of the post. I think it would be better with much less text and with translation of the jargon used.

maia88

It's worth noting that Twitter polls are easily corrupted/manipulated by someone trying deliberately to do so. But no one is likely do that unless they know you take the results seriously. It's anti-inductive: the more you use them, the less useful they get.

maia236

Even if it benefited people in the short term, releasing a gene drive without consulting the local government would likely lead to a huge backlash

But has anyone asked a local government?

https://www.stop-genedrives.eu/interview-mit-ali-tapsoba/ suggest that local opposition in Burkina Faso stopped them from releasing GMO mosquitos where the males are sterline without a gene drive in 2020 which Target Malaria later managed to do in 2021. 

Target Malaria plans in their timeline that they have to first to five years of testing with those sterile mosquitos before they will afterwards release the gene drive mosquitos in Burkina Faso.

Their timeline seems to be the result of consultation with local government. 

maia205

There's a wonderful Econtalk segment on this issue: https://www.econtalk.org/michael-heller-and-james-salzman-on-mine/

The authors wrote a book on property rights in everyday life, and how they differ from legal property rights. The example of airline seats is a case where, if you survey people, they give basically 50/50 answers about who "owns" the airspace in front of an airline seat, and therefore whether reclining the seat is appropriate.

Their belief is that it is actually in the airline's interests for this to be ambiguous. This is because when paying ... (read more)

4Matt Goldenberg
  There's an assumption here (about the fact that people are making that natural assumption), but I don't know where it comes or if there's any evidence for it.  It seems more like the type of thing you'd think of when making clever economic arguments for a podcast than a real assumption people would make.
8jmh
I find myself wondering about the up votes here. Nice to have a link to the subject and econtalk should at least have some generally reasonable arguments being made. In this case, however, I am skeptical. Does anyone really think the price of an airline ticket would change more and a $1 (and so not change at all) if that was clarified (thought I agree it's a case of incomplete contract specification in the rental of the space)? What is the trade off here? Pass up the plane and not go where you planned to, or take alternative transportation that will add hours, days or even weeks to the time in travel?  I don't buy the claim being made that the airline is some how maximizing the value (in a molochinan? way) of the seat here with that unspecified, or poorly specified (they do advertise that ability and mention the need to return the seat to its fully upright position for takeoff and landing), status of reclining the seat.  I would change my mind here if some investigative reporter or airline industry insider published some internal documents/communications stating that is why they don't make more about when and where a seat can be reclined.
maia100

Hey, one year later, just wanted to say thanks for writing this post. I found the Feeling Good podcast really interesting and I've also bought and read Feeling Great, and I find myself often going back to the ideas in the book and podcast to help me with different situations. I think going through the exercises in the book helped me out a lot with medical anxiety. So, thank you for the recommendation!

maia50

I wrote some more potentially-disagreeable statements for the DC meetup today. Here are the ones that were actually controversial:

  • If I had the option to have my brain uploaded with perfect accuracy into a simulated life better than my current life, but only if it destroyed my physical brain and body in the process, I would take it.
  • Having more children today improves the world overall.

A good way to find good statements for this is asking random attendees: "What view do you have that you think lots of people here might disagree with?"

Couple more examples tha... (read more)

1Screwtape
Your suggestions have been added to the list, thank you!
maia40

I rewrote the pair sorting code to pull from the output of a Google form, so you can just copy-paste and click a button to get the output. https://tigrennatenn.neocities.org/double_crux_helper.html Should be easier to use than the Jupyter notebook version, and maybe easier/more robust than doing it finger-wise.

maia63

I have strong memories of not wanting to wear seatbelts as a child because the strap was uncomfortable on my neck; I would often put the shoulder belt behind me to avoid it, which is obviously pretty unsafe. I had one babysitter who used a device that attached to the seatbelt mount and changed the angle of the belt to go over my shoulder instead, which was literally just a triangle of fabric. Something like these: https://www.amazon.com/Seatbelt-Adjuster-Triangle-Positioner-Protective/dp/B078K5N2BQ Costs $10, small, easy to move. I suspect these don't count for legal purposes, though.

4jefftk
At least MA requires that kids under 8yo: "be fastened and secured by a child passenger restraint". And defines that as "a specifically designed seating system which meets the United States Department of Transportation Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, as established in 49 C.F.R. 571.213, which is either permanently affixed to a motor vehicle or is affixed to such vehicle by a safety belt or a universal attachment system." The positioner you linked doesn't say it meets federal standards, so it probably doesn't? Compare to, say this inflatable booster that says it "exceeds all US federal car safety standards & European regulations (FMVSS213 & R44/04)" or this belt positioning folding flat seat that says "Meets or exceeds NHTSA standard FMVSS 213 in the USA and is regulated for use in every state.".
maia84

Midjourney seems to be better at stylistic consistency. E.g. see the images on the post, which are pretty stylistically consistent: https://alexanderwales.com/the-ai-art-apocalypse/

maia98

How to solve a Rubik’s Cube via learning 3,915 algorithms for the final layer. I notice I am more confused that this didn’t happen earlier than I am impressed or surprised that it happened now. I mean of course that’s the way to do it, right?

Not sure how serious this is, but to give a little more context, the standard methods involve memorizing 57 algorithms for OLL ("orientation" of the last layer-- getting all the yellow bits on the top face) and 21 algorithms for PLL (permutation of the last layer-- fixing the sides of all the top cubies). Breaking it d... (read more)

maia4-8

What I took away from this comment was: Mainstream meditation teachers are not happy with Martin because he has redefined "awakening" to mean a thing that is good and people want (being happier), rather than a thing that is strange and possibly bad that people don't want, and is teaching people the good and wanted thing instead of the weird mysterious thing.

6Razied
Not really. Martin's "Locations" 2 and 3 are somewhat in line with traditional definitions of awakening, his course is, in fact, aiming at the weird esoteric stuff, not the low-hanging-fruit that techniques like MBSR are picking. It's his "Location 1" that is more contentious, where he seems to place the bar lower than other traditions. The course itself still seems net-positive to me, even if I disagree with charging money for the techniques. I just don't want people to self-diagnose as being in "Location 1", and think that they're awakened by the more common definitions. Thinking you're awakened when you're not tends to hurt your practice more than the inverse. As an aside, being happier is a relatively early fruit of the meditative path. You can learn to do something called The Second Jhana, where you basically generate happiness on demand. What happens after you get that is that you realize that happiness wasn't actually what you were looking for, there is a more fundamental problem to be solved than just not being happy. Somewhat unintuitively, being happy isn't enough to truly Satisfy, it works for a few months while the novelty hasn't worn off, but it's not the ultimate answer. For that you need the strange and scary esoteric stuff.
maia50

Couple questions about this sequence.

Is there any plan to write down and post more of the surrounding content like activities/lectures/etc.?

How does CFAR feel about "off-brand"/"knockoff" versions of these workshops being run at meetups? If OK with it, how should those be announced/disclaimed to make it clear that they're not affiliated with CFAR?

I'm interested in this as an organizer, and based on conversations at the meetup organizers' retreat this weekend, I think a number of other organizers would be interested as well.

3Duncan Sabien (Deactivated)
There aren't currently plans to write up e.g. descriptions of the classes and activities, but there are lots of people who have been to CFAR workshops who can offer their anecdotes, and you may be able to reach out to CFAR directly for descriptions of what a workshop is like. (Also, there are going to be workshops in Europe this fall that you could attend if you want.) As for spreading off-brand versions of the content: CFAR is enthusiastically pro the idea! Their main request is just that you clearly headline: * That CFAR originated the content you're attempting to convey (e.g. credit them for terms like "TAPs") * That you are teaching your version of CFAR's TAPs (or whatever); that this is "what I, Maia, got out of attempting to learn the CFAR technique called TAPs." As long as you're crediting the creators and not claiming to speak with authority about the thing you're teaching, CFAR is (very) happy to have other people spreading the content.
maia30

For some non-AC options if you don't manage to get one in time: Those little spray fans that also mist you with water are remarkably effective. They usually are battery-powered, so still useful in a power outage.

Also, drinking cold smoothies is surprisingly cooling -- probably any consumption of ice-cold water/stuff will get you a similar effect. I drank many of them to get through heat waves in San Francisco.

4Donald Hobson
A fan and some improvisation (and old socks, plastic box, wooden spoon etc) works as a swamp cooler.
maia20

In the DC area there are much fewer places without A/C, since it's pretty critical to human functioning here. I always found it weird how many rental places didn't offer A/C in the South Bay, given that it was clearly necessary some of the year. People in California are too used to temperate weather or something.
 

2Adam Zerner
Yeah, more generally I don't understand places without AC either when it does get uncomfortably hot for a month or two a year. When I was in Culver City outside of LA I didn't have AC and needed to get a portable unit in the summer. Iirc my apartment was something like 75 degrees at night, which makes it difficult for me to sleep. And probably for many others too. I recall research showing that something in the mid to high 60s is optimal sleeping temperature. And during the day it can be hot, so I'd have to go to the mall or something to get access to AC, which is inconvenient when you just want to relax at home. A window unit is only a couple hundred bucks, so the price seems more than low enough to justify it.
1trevor
I was thinking of apartments, specifically the cheapest apartments in expensive areas where you sacrifice lots of minor things to reduce market price e.g. no garbage chute, small size, and also A/C (in my case, they would turn the building from A/C to heating early in the fall and wait until june to turn it back on in order to save money, which is easily solved with a cheap window unit) It was presumptive of me to assume that was the only category of housing that OP was researching.
maia390

An uncle of mine was a professional mountain climber for years. I vividly remember him telling me a story about when he and his best friend started to slide down an icy mountain and had to pull their ice picks out to drag along behind them. I was waiting to find out how they got out of it, when he said "And that's when my buddy died." It was real life, not just a story.

He mentioned with some regret that he'd never climbed Everest, "but at least I'm alive and still have all my toes."

3NoBadCake
"started to slide down an icy mountain and had to pull their ice picks out" -- Alive and toed was regret well spent, IMO! Ages ago I spoke with a roofer who told me of a time he was on a steep two story roof and started to slide on some loose shingles.  He quickly took our his straight claw hammer to slam it down into the plywood underneath. As he pounded the roof repeatedly while skidding to the edge he recalled having borrowed another guy's curved claw hammer that day. He fell but lived to tell the tale! Great article, thanks for posting!

I’m a casual climber and know a lot of former pros/serious climbers - the death rate is simply staggering. I get that these people just have the drive and can’t imagine not pushing the boundaries even further, but when a single guy can tell me three different stories about watching a fellow climber or paraglider or whatever else they do in the mountains dying in front of him, that sport is too much for me to go further into. I remember reading outdoor magazines about the exploits of the most famous climbers fifteen or twenty years ago, and I look them up now and a solid chunk of them are dead. It’s wild, but there’s something appealing about it in a primal sense.

maia20

Oh, and a trick re: your problem of rotten food. Take the food, put it in gallon Ziplocks in the freezer until trash day, and then throw it out. I don't bother with this myself, but I know someone who does this with raw-meat-based trash because they also have problems with animals in their garbage.

maia257

Re: basic cooking skills and stocking a kitchen: Some cookbooks actually do help with this! One of the best resources for a very beginning cook is The Joy of Cooking, which contains pages of detailed illustrations about how to do very basic kitchen tasks. It also has substantial sections on how to select high-quality produce and meats, and various other forms of kitchen-related advice you're looking for. I'd definitely recommend checking it out. (Full disclosure, I haven't used it much in years because I'm a more advanced cook at this point, but I did look... (read more)

Answer by maia60

Here's one example: my house! Our purchase price was around $460k. You can estimate the value of unimproved land by subtracting the value the house is insured for from the actual price. It's insured for $360k, so our land value would be estimated at $100k. (I'm sure there are better ways to estimate this-- and I imagine if taxes depended on it, people might try to change their insurance amounts to game the system-- but it works for now.) 

From a quick look at Craigslist, it seems we could rent the place out for maybe $2,500 per month. Multiply that by ... (read more)

maia20

Cool :-) In case it's useful, let me share with you the vows we used:

"In the presence of these our family and friends, I take you to be my beloved, promising to be a loving and faithful partner. I vow to cherish your spirit and individuality, to face life's challenges with patience and humor, to respect our differences, and to nurture our growth. I will share the world with you and delight in seeing it through your eyes. Together, we will build greater things than either of us could alone."

The first two sentences were taken from various Quaker wedding cert... (read more)

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