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Thank you for the clarification, but it doesn't bother me either way.

3 reasons:

  1. I'm the dumb kid on the block when it comes to less wrong. (If any of the census or my behavior in posting something that signals against the Less Wrong tribal stance are any indicators.)

  2. I'm not (yet) a scientist, and I couldn't find any studies on this. Take into account that less wrong is "heavier" in scientists than usual for an online community, and I hoped that it would be something someone would either know about or find interesting.

  3. This is the discussion forum, and I was hoping that there might be just that, discussion.

5ChristianKl
In this case, the problem is that you accept the theory based on it seeming reasonable and not based on it making any useful empiric predictions. You also haven't make another case for the usefulness of the model. Beliefs have to pay rent and you haven't demostrated how this model pays it's rent. You make hard statements like "35% of adults are on this level (The Self-Authoring Mind)" without indicating where the number comes from. Is this a number from a study based done in the US? Europe? Is the number simply made up? Use of numbers like that is a mark of pseudoscience. It seems like you simply believe those numbers without critical reflection. You find that there are well received posts on LW about psychological issues such as Brianne's post What its like to notice things that are coming directly out of academic psychology and scientific studies. Posts like that are still welcome because they are based on Brianne's own empiric experience. Brianne doesn't try to put numbers on things that can't be well supported. There's no use to talk about models that don't have personal experience of the author that indicates the usefulness of the model or scientific experiments that back up the model.

If that's what it takes, I just wanted people to look this over and say what they thought, otherwise I wouldn't have posted to Discussion.

3skeptical_lurker
In case it wasn't obvious, I was laughing at Timothy Leary's version, not yours.

That might be due to my reference to HPMOR, and it's tribal signaling. In hindsight that may have been a poor decision.

Ok, I'm sorry if this post looks like it's speaking for CDT being correct. As listed in the header this is written based on Gwerley's post, and was intended to simplify the idea. (and add context to better imagine it)

I felt the idea sounded like it would be something to look into, as at least the first two levels seem like they are (more or less) correct. (I still wouldn't think this would be a terribly useful theory if applied to humans only, as the orders of mind seem like they're more evolutionary (notes 3 and 4) than developmental.)

1ChristianKl
Then why didn't you look into the evidence for it before writing a post?

I appreciate the encouragement (Karma), but what I need is further material. I don't have the material to make this into something (very) useful, and don't know where else to look. (Other than tearing apart the local libraries psychology sections which has thus far yielded Freud, Freud, Developmental Psychology, and more Freud.)

...If I actually wanted to start a cult I wouldn't post it. I was thinking something of starting something akin to the secular solstice. (Though I doubt most people could tell a cult from a group like this.)

Also Rule #74: When I create a multimedia presentation of my plan designed so that my five-year-old advisor can easily understand the details, I will not label the disk "Project Overlord" and leave it lying on top of my desk.

(We are on the Evil Overlord checklist right? I never finished copying it down.)

2cameroncowan
Due to the the decapodian mating tendencies (which include standing on beaches attracting their mates after which they die) I don't think they would be driven to cause life on other planets. However, it might be a good idea to send the mutants from the sewers. They could reproduce and improve their evolution within the constraints of that new environment.

Is this idea actualy do-able, if so it sounds like it would be fun. The obvious questions (to me) are:

How do you screen for membership, and can we do this in real life without the government(s) screwing it over?

3ike
Rule #1: don't talk about starting a cult in a public place.

Alright reviewed the rules, and i'm running a pilot session in 2 weeks. I'll reply again if I deicde to run a full campaign. (Also found compatibility rules for Dark Herasy - 1D4chan if memory serves.)

When reason fails, boobs have a chance.

...Ok, Obviously enough that's an affective plan, (even if it is dark arts-ish) but are you posting this as news or a recruitment attempt?

-3Lumifer
Teh internets do not lack for "show us your boobs" places, so no, no recruitment :-) I just like the irony.

I actually have an idea on that. I'm currently running a NWoD campaign with multiple GM's. If we could get two or three like minded people to GM it would have not only a lot more "up-time" we could do world building on a massive scale. (Each GM runs a diffrent region.)

There are drawbacks, (slight inconsistencies between GM's, for example) but I think that would be outweighed by the benefits.

0Minds_Eye
Alright reviewed the rules, and i'm running a pilot session in 2 weeks. I'll reply again if I deicde to run a full campaign. (Also found compatibility rules for Dark Herasy - 1D4chan if memory serves.)

Hey, Mind's Eye here. Sorry, but I’m going to keep my meat space name for meat space. I'm an aspiring writer/game designer, with a secondary focus on cognitive/evolutionary psychology. I currently do government work, and am waiting on the contract to expire. I intend to make games that raise the sanity waterline, through low rate increase in “rational” difficulty with real world-esc consequences for your choices, as the good choice doesn’t always-or often-lead to more rewards for the one doing them.

As for what I value… I think Eleizer said it better ... (read more)

You could always tell them to think inside the chimney. If you're lucky they'll be so confused they'll look at the territory to figure out what you mean, and if you’re really lucky they'll end up thinking downstairs in the attic and never bother you again.