Nathan Young

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Is there a summary of the rationalist concept of lawfulness anywhere. I am looking for one and can't find it. 

But isn't the point of karma to be a ranking system? Surely its bad if it's a suboptimal one?

I would have a dialogue with someone on whether Piper should have revealed SBF's messages. Happy to take either side.

Sure but shouldn't the karma system be a prioritisation ranking, not just "what is fun to read?"

I would say I took at least 10 hours to write it. I rewrote it about 4 times.

Yeah but the mapping post is about 100x more important/well informed also. Shouldn't that count for something? I'm not saying it's clearer, I'm saying that it's higher priority, probably.

Hmmmm. I wonder how common this is. This is not how I think of the difference. I think of mathematicians as dealing with coherent systems of logic and engineers dealing with building in the real world. Mathematicians are useful when their system maps to the problem at hand, but not when it doesn't. 

I should say i have a maths degree so it's possible that my view of mathematicians and the general view are not conincident.

Yeah this seems like a good point. Not a lot to argue with, but yeah underrated.

It is disappointing/confusing to me that of the two articles I recently wrote, the one that was much closer to reality got a lot less karma.

  • A new process for mapping discussions is a summary of months of work that I and my team did on mapping discourse around AI.  We built new tools, employed new methodologies. It got 19 karma
  • Advice for journalists is a piece that I wrote in about 5 hours after perhaps 5 hours of experiences. It has 73 karma and counting

I think this is isn't much evidence, given it's just two pieces. But I do feel a pull towards coming up with theories rather than building and testing things in the real world. To the extent this pull is real, it seems bad.

If true, I would recommend both that more people build things in the real world and talk about them and that we find ways to reward these posts more, regardless of how alive they feel to us at the time.

(Aliveness being my hypothesis - many of us understand or have more live feelings about dealing with journalists than a sort of dry post about mapping discourse)

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