All of Norman Borlaug's Comments + Replies

I wrote this a year ago and was not really thinking about this topic as carefully and was feeling quite emotional about the lack of effort. At the time people mostly thought slowing down AI was impossible or undesirable for some good reasons and a lot of reasons that in hindsight looked pretty dumb.

I think a better strategy would look more like “require new systems guarantee a reasonable level of interpretability and pass a set of safety benchmarks”

And eventually, if you can actually convince enough people of the danger, there should be a hard cap on the amount of compute that can be used in training runs that decreases over time to compensate for algorithmic improvements.

I'm confused how your estimate of the likelihood that Omicron evades vaccine protection could have gone up while your estimate of the likelihood that the previously immune are no longer protected against severe disease until they get a booster shot went down.

If vaccinated people are more likely to get infected, how is it less likely that they need an Omicron booster to protect against severe disease?

2frankybegs
"severe disease" vs. "infected"
3NormanPerlmutter
If I understand correctly, Zvi's idea is that vaccine protection against infection has likely gone down, but vaccine protection against severe infection has held nearly constant, so that the vast majority of additional infections among vaccinated people will be non-severe. 

That's certainly the argument its proponents make, and perhaps it's true in some circumstances. But after looking at some of the research grants made to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the years leading up to the outbreak, it's clear to me that there really is dangerous research out there whose theoretical benefits are vastly outweighed by the costs.

For example, there was some really dangerous gain-of-function research happening in a BSL-2 facility, which are just not designed to contain dangerous pathogens.

But we inherently need international agreements to deal with these problems. I believe the US banning gain of function research in 2015 was one of the driving factors that pushed the research overseas into Wuhan.

2ChristianKl
That seems doubtful to me. It seems to me like as part of wanting world class scientists this is something the Chinese wanted regardless of US research policy as long as the research is held at high esteem by the international scientific community. 

That website covariants.org is amazing. I've been looking for something like that for so long.

I think you are likely underweighting the possibility that Omicron could significantly decrease vaccine efficacy.

Omicron has 50 mutations including 30 in the spike protein. I believe Delta had 9. https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1464410605402480641
 

https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1464325657861574659

"The B.1.1.529 (omicron) Spike looks a whole lot like a 'polymutant' Spike experimentally generated to evade antibody responses from infection or vaccination, as noted by @theodora_nyc

And at long last, here's the tweet I read two days ago and ... (read more)

5jow
The research in question seems to be described in this Nature paper, where the authors say (emphasis mine): So, regarding safety, it seems the place to start would be understanding the properties of this rVSV/SARS-CoV-2 construct.  Further details are here.
2henryaj
Do you know what kind of research Theodora's lab is actually doing? (She doesn't have a surname on Twitter so I can't find her). But I imagine research into spike protein mutants could just involve synthesising spike protein that has mutations and assaying the binding affinity of antibodies to the synthetic spike protein – not necessarily creating mutated viruses. (undergrad biochemistry was a long time ago. I could well be wrong)
-4TAG
Alternatively, gain of function research is useful and gives us advanced warning of natural mutations. I don't know if that is the one true narrative , but I'm not ruling it out.
6Richard_Kennaway
At this point I have to wonder about the existence of antinatalist virologists.

The link is working for me, though the markdown you used isn't formatting the way it is supposed to.

So if I understand correctly, Moderna gave a third dose of either the B.1.351 variant shot or the original 1273 shot to patients and found that those given the B.1.351 shot had higher levels of neutralizing antibodies against the variant?

This seems to suggest that we could do strain specific boosters against COVID. I suspect that would be particularly true for Omicron since it has so much more antigenic drift than the other variants.

Probably for the same reason they downplayed the drop in vaccine efficacy from Delta: they didn't want to increase vaccine hesitancy.

What do you think of this new South African variant that seems to be massively out-competing Delta?

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1463956686075580421

2tkpwaeub
Just read about that. I think we need more information before updating our overall assessments?

Personally, I don't think I see that you can turn an ML system that has say 50-to-250 percent of a human's intelligence into an existential threat just by pushing the "turbo" button on the hardware. Which means that I'm kind of hoping nobody goes the "nuclear war" route in real life.

Isn't that part somewhat tautological? A sufficiently large group of humans is basically a superintelligence. We've basically terraformed the earth with cows and rice and cities and such. 

A computer with >100% human intelligence would be incredibly economically valuable... (read more)

Looks like a new even closer wild relative of SARS-CoV-2 has been found: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-covid-lab-leak-theory-just-got-even-stronger

Seems to me like this evidence increases the odds that the origin of the pandemic was a lab in Wuhan.  Anyone disagree?

Also, I really hate the FDA. Every month brings a new reason to hate them even more. The bureaucratic death machine continues to slowly roll over a few thousand new people every month.

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Is there any reason you don't provide positive tests per capita by region instead of positive test by region? Seems like the former would be more useful for comparison purposes.