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It turns that the truth is more bizarre. From Matt Levine's Money Stuff:

But today at the Wall Street Journal Hannah Miao, Gregory Zuckerman and Ben Eisen have the actual, horrifying explanation, which is that the Fed’s computers go to bed at 4 p.m. and you can’t wake them up until the next morning

The point I stressed before on government bonds was right: SVB could have borrowed against them. But it seems like I was wrong: it could have borrowed against Agency MBS, too.

in a nutshell (I don't have the time to write a treatise on this, every word I write is 20w i could have read instead): I'm pretty confident (status: ~ .6) that if SVB had 90bi in gov bonds HTM instead of MBS and the like, it wouldn't have failed. You can say it would have had losses (especially in 2022), it would likely have been bought, but not failed. I know of no bank that has suffered a run because they had too much gov long term bonds (from the corresponding government, and unless the gov defaulted, ofc) in the last century (if you have an example, p... (read more)

Because I work for a regulator and am not allowed to do that? Also, many investors won't have enough incentives to read beyond what other investors are reading... except if, as you mentioned, u work w shortselling And shortsellers did make money in this case. So in this sense, the system works... but when it happens to a bank, that's not so cool

1ChristianKl
Why don't they have incentives? Isn't reading beyond what other investors are reading exactly the way to make profits if you don't just put your money into a diversified index fund?

and the whole world will care a lot more about this term in bank reports, basically forever.

I'm usually astonished w how seldom investors and supervisors read the fine print in annual reports. I don't think "this time will be different". Unless GPT-like automated report-readers step in (or maybe precisely because humans will leave this boring details to machines), we'll see it happen again.

Btw, I just noticed that $9.3bi of these $15.2 are MBS - yeah, the same type of security associated w the great crisis of 2007-2008. And the HTM total more than U$90 bi,... (read more)

1rossry
I suspect it is true that they're haircut less generously, but I do not believe that any part of SVB's trouble looked like "well, if only we could haircut our Agency MBS like our Treasurys, we'd be fine..." The relevant fact about them for the SVB story is that their credit is insured (by the government, except with extra steps), so ultimately they're like a slightly-weirder interest-rate play, which was exactly the firearm which SVB needed to shoot its own foot. The weirdnesses don't add much to the story. [E: People just say "SVB had too much gov bonds"] is evidence consistent with [H1: people haven't read the reports closely enough to know the actual holdings] and [H2: people have decided that Agency MBS is adequately described in the category "gov bonds"]. The update that I make, on seeing the evidence that Agency MBS dimension not much discussed, doesn't re-weight my ratio belief between H1 and H2, and I continue mostly believing H2 for the reasons I believed it before.
1rossry
This is technically true but much, much less interesting than it sounds. The "subprime CDO-squared mortgage-backed securities" associated with the 2008 crisis were: * based on mortgages of "subprime" credit rating (which is, like most terms invented by credit bankers, a gross euphemism)... * ...which were(, because of the above,) not backed by the pseudo-governmental agencies that insure mortgages * "securitized" in a way that splits the existing risk between three different classes of investors, with the bank selling the riskiest two to someone else * had their middle tranches subsequently repackaged into second-order financial derivatives... * ...some of which were safe to an arbitrary number of 9s if and only if you believed that defaults on the backing mortgages were independent random events... * ...and which were regulated as if that condition were true... * ...with the consequence that banks were allowed to take almost literally infinite leverage on them (and in relevant cases, did). The "agency mortgage-backed securities" on SVB's balance sheet were: * based on "conforming" mortgages insured by the pseudo-governmental "agencies"... * ...the credit of which is not material to the bank, because of the insurance. * "securitized" in a way that splits the existing risk between three different classes of investors, with the bank selling the riskiest (and maybe also the second-riskiest) to someone else * definitely not repackaged using the same trick * require a ~10% capital buffer for every dollar of assets, truly regardless of riskiness (yes, even Federal Reserve deposits need this), just in case there's some other trick that makes them bad credit The problem in 2008 is that these theoretically-perfect-credit, infinite-leverage-allowed instruments were in fact bad credits because the independence assumption was violated. The failure couldn't have happened within the regular system if the banks were restricted to directly owning mortgages. The pr
2rossry
I am occasionally astonished by this as well. My claim is not that the whole annual report will be read more closely for the rest of time; my specific claim is that the specific footnote about unrealized HTM losses will be read closely for the rest of time.
3ChristianKl
If that would be true, you should be able to make good money by reading the fine print of annual reports, buying some options, and then publishing the information. Why aren't we seeing that in your view?

Well, I'm kinda sure climbers wouldn't like to brain-upload to a utopia simulation, so maybe there's some connection between this and AI alignment.
(Curiously, just read today Will MacAskill's WWOTF mentioning he used to climb buildings in Glasgow in his teens, until he was almost cut open by glass...)

Thanks, I believe you are right. I really regret how much time and resources are wasted arguing over the extension / reference of a word.

I'd like to remark though that I was just trying to explain what I see as problematic in FiO. I wouldn't only say that its conclusion is suboptimal (and I believe it is bad, and many people would agree); I also think that, given what Celestia can do, they got lucky (though lucky is not the adequate word when it comes to narratives) it didn't end up in worse ways.

As I point out in a reply to shminux, I think it's hard to s... (read more)

Possibly. I said this AGI is “safer and more aligned”, implying that it is a matter of degree – while I think most people would regard these properties as discrete: either you are aligned or unaligned. But then I can just replace it with “more likely to be regarded as safe, friendly and aligned”, and the argument remains the same. Moreover, my standard of comparison was Celest-IA, who convinces people to do brain uploading by creating a “race to the bottom” scenario (i.e., as more and more people go to the simulation, human extinction becomes more likely –... (read more)

My concern, which I interpret as being TAG's point (but with different words), is that your example of water vs. XYZ is immediately traceable (at least for anyone who knows the philosophical discussion) to Putnam's Twin Earth experiment. The way you express your point suggests you disregard this thought experiment - which is surprising for someone acquainted with it, because Putnam (at least when he wrote the paper) would likely agree that a substance with the same basic chemical properties of water would be water. He actually aims to provide an argument f... (read more)

LW is quoted (in a kind of flattering way) in Simon Dedeo's awesome piece on the last Nautil.us issue. For spoiler lovers:

[...] Rationality is my ticket out. The only reason I can trust you is that you seem rational enough to talk to. But now you’re telling me that rationality is just a layer on top of the System—it’s just as irrational as the people I’m trying to escape. I don’t know which is worse: being duped by someone else’s priors, or being a biological machine.

Teacher: Don’t go too far. You’re a smart kid—you can iterate faster than most. You can ma

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Strict liability in tort law seems to be a pretty obvious example, doesn't it? I mean, I guess a lot of corporate law can be seen as "vicariously holding a group accountable"

I've seen news about this study, but no preprint. It'd be really helpful if we could get it.

I'm more concerned with developing countries, particularly if they depend on international trade for food. Also, their goods are mainly transported by truck drivers travelling long distances, who may opportunistically demand better working conditions. In Brazil, they threatened to stop working, thus reminding everyone of a strike in 2018 that caused supply problems in major cities. Fortunately, they reconsidered it after the government started a mediatic campaign to make them feel valued.

Does anyone have any idea / info on what proportion of the infected cases are getting Covid19 inside hospitals? This seems to have been a real issue for previous coronavirus.

I'd say there might be a stark difference between countries / regions in this area. Italian health workers seem to have taken a heavy blow. Also, 79 deaths in Brazil (total: 200) came from only one Hospital chain/ health insurer, which focus on aging customers (so, yeah, maybe it's just selection bias?).

(Epistemic status: low, but I didin't find any research on that aft... (read more)

South Korea, as always, are a treasure trove on information - they publish details every day which includes major outbreak clusters, some of which are hospitals. Of the non-cult related cases where they have managed to identify the source of the infection, hospital based infections account for 20%. If you include cases where they haven't identified the source then it's more like 10% which is probably a fairer reflection as hospital clusters probably mainly do get identified.

(They changed their reporting layout on March 25th and the new version do... (read more)

I noticed CDC claims 9 deaths from Diamond Princess, but I didn't find support in their source. WHO is still counting 8 deaths. I guess you're right, but I'd appreciate if you could provide the source.

They write "at the time of testing." The study I cite followed up with what happened to patients.

I know that. If you follow this discussion up to the beginning, you'll see that all I'm claiming is that the number of documented cases has been affected by selective bias, because asymptomatic / pre-symptomatic etc. cases are un... (read more)

1Lukas_Gloor
I read about the new deaths on the Wikipedia article. -- Okay. I feel like the discussion is sometimes a bit weird because the claim that there are a lot of undocumented cases is something that both sides (high IFR or low IFR) agree on. The question is how large that portion is. You're right to point to some sampling biases and so on, but the article under discussion estimates an IFR that it at least a factor 5 below that of other studies, and a factor of 4 (or 3.5 respectively) below what I think are defensible lower bounds based on analysis of South Korea or the cruise ship. I don't think selection bias can explain this (at least not on the cruise ship; I agree that the hypothesis works for China's numbers but my point is that it conflicts with other things we know). (And I already tried to adjust for selection bias with my personal lower bounds.) It depends on the reasoning. We have three data sets (there are more, but those three are the ones I'm most familiar with): * South Korea * The Diamond Princess * China How much to count evidence from each data set depends on how much model uncertainty we have about the processes that generated the data, how fine-grained the reporting has been, and how large the sample sizes are. China is good on sample size but poor in every other respect. The cruise ship is poor on sample size but great in every other respect. South Korea is good in every respect. If I get lower bounds of 0.4% and 0.35% from the first two examples, and someone writes a new paper on China (where model uncertainty is by far highest) and gets a conclusion that is 16x lower than some other reputable previous estimates (where BTW no one has pointed out a methodological flaw either so far), it doesn't matter whether I can find a flaw in the study design or not. The conclusion is too implausible compared to the paucity of the data set that it's from. It surely counts as some evidence and I'm inclined to move a bit closer to my lower bounds, all else

Maybe CDC screwed their data, but they say 46.5% of the Diamond Princess cases were asymptomatic when tested: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e3.htm?s_cid=mm6912e3_w

I believe this might be a confusion between asymptomatic and pre/mildly symptomatic - but whatever: the claim at stake is that there's a ton of undocumented cases out there, not that they're asymptomatic

1Lukas_Gloor
They write "at the time of testing." The study I cite followed up with what happened to patients. Also relevant: In the last 5 days, 3 more people who had tested positive on the Diamond Princess died. And one person died two weeks ago but somehow it wasn't reported for a while. So while my own estimates were based on the assumption that 7 / 700 people died, it's now 11 / 700.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I understood the relevance of asymptomatic : symptomatic ratio here. I think what's at stake in this article is the ratio undocumented : documented cases; it'll include not only asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic or mildly symptomatic people, but people who got really sick but couldn't be tested until Hubei had largely improved their testing capabilities.

I do think a 50:1 rate is surprising, though not impossible.

If 50% of the cases in South Korea are asymptomatic and so don't get tested, their true death... (read more)

2Bucky
If there is a 1:1 symptomatic:asymptomatic ratio and 2,000,000 odd infections then there are 1,000,000 symptomatic people out there and only 40,000 identified. Of that 1,000,000 we expect 200,000 to require hospitalisation and 50,000 to require ICU. If this was true I would expect someone to have noticed. There might be another explanation for the figures that I’m missing but, as I said, I think it’s up to them to explain what they think is going on.

True, but Diamond Princess is full of oldies, and, despite South Korea massive testing, there might be selection bias - I guess people would only get tested if they had some symptom or contact with other infected persons (perhaps you're referring a more specific study?). Notice that, if the science study claiming 86% of the cases in Wuhan were undocumented were right, this would already imply a fatality rate of about 0.6%, below South Korea estimates.

Yet, I agree the fatality rate is surprisingly low, and it's just a statistical model.

Diamond princess is important because they did 100% testing so it gives us an idea of asymptomatic : symptomatic ratio. The result was roughly 1:1, nothing like 50:1 or whatever this paper suggests. The science study with 6:1 is at least plausible if you account for symptomatics who weren't identified.

If South Korea hadn't managed to test the majority of their cases then it is unlikely that they would have managed to reduce their infection rate so dramatically - their quarantine measures aren't massively strict although I think the populatio... (read more)

My average is a week, I guess. I only share ideas I can't falsify or take out of my head; and I try them with close friends first. And I admit I'm kinda sensitive to negative feedback.

Maybe a spreadsheet would be more informative. You could easily aggregate many answers.

If you grab your mobile with your dirty hands, then wash them, and then use your device again, you just recontaminated them; and if you never clean its surface (how do we do it effectively?), it'll accumulate pathogens. This seems to be a serious problem in hospitals.

(I'm not sure if I follow your reasoning; it apparently implies that, if you never shake hands with someone else, you never have to worry about washing them. Of course, it does reduce the potential for transmission.)

2ChristianKl
You aren't just touching other peoples hand directly. You are usually touching doornobs, light switches and other objects that other people are also touching.

We should take into account the welfare of others, too. Besides protecting me from disease, washing my hands prevents me from transmitting it to someone else. It's pretty much analogous to vaccines.

I 've seen somethings concerning how dirty cellphones are - and how they can worsen interpersonal disease transmission. I wonder if there's any advice on how to keep it clean (and how useful would it be).

1willbradshaw
Yeah, this is something I worry about as well. It's probably a good idea to clean your phone with hand sanitiser regularly, but unless you're doing it multiple times per day (which nobody is) it's still going to be a big problem. AFAICT most people never clean their phones at all.
1ChristianKl
If you are the only person touching your smart phone and not give it to other people that should reduce a lot of the potential of them as a vector. If you in addition don't press it against your face, it's not clear to me why it would make sense to worry about it.

I do think Lanrian nailed it: there's no process ensuring fitness selection in dating. On the other hand, we are wasting an opportunity to go meta here: if everyone were capable of mimicking the features of a picture that make it successful, then those features should lose their importance, since they are not reliably signaling that someone is a good mate. If I'm not bright enough to see through a carefully planned image of a smile and a discrete cleavage, I am probably not bright enough to get a similarly attractive picture for myself. Plus, usual cogniti

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I find LeCun's insistence on the analogy with legal systems particularly interesting, because they remind me more Russell's proposal of "uncertain objectives" than the "maximize objective function" paradigm. At least in liberal societies, we don't have a definite set of principles and values that people would agree to follow - instead, we aim at principles that guarantee an environment where any reasonable person can reasonably optimize for something like their own comprehensive doctrine.

However, the remarkable disanalog... (read more)

So far, LW is still online. It means:

a) either nobody used their launch codes, and you can trust 125 nice & smart individuals not to take unilateralist action - so we can avoid armageddon if we just have coordinated communities with the right people;

b) nobody used their launch codes, because these 125 are very like-minded people (selection bias), there's no immediate incentive to blow it up (except for some offers about counterfactual donations), but some incentive to avoid it (honor!... hope? Prove EDT, UDT...?). It doesn't model the proble... (read more)

I thought he was being ambiguous on purpose, so as to maximize donations.

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I am wondering about the link between the notion of distance (in the first post), extremes in a utility scale, and big deal. That's me in 15'

My opinion ("epistemic status"): dunno.

I remember an issue in The Economist in 2013 about it. There's some argument among economists on the absence of productivity improvements, despite the buzz over AI and ICT; Erin Brynjolfsson argues that it takes some time for global pervasive technologies to have an impact (e.g.: electricity). However, the main point of Thiel & Weinstein is that we haven't found new breakthroughs that are easy to profit from.

But it reminds me Cixin Liu's Dark Forest context, where:

humankind stalled because... (read more)

4Ben Pace
I added spoiler tags, which you can use with the following symbols: >!

Your argumetn is sound. For me, it's curious that development economists almost never mention the temperature x productivity relation - except for J. Sachs (who mixes it with other geographical factors) and Nordhaus (who got a Nobel Prize for reasoning about it).

Ok, but the point is: how do you aggregate this in a prediction market? You have no incentive to bet on Earth's doom

There's a cool name for this donor's action: blindspotting (yeah, it's written like this) - after a Roy Sorensen book from 1988.