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Open thread, June 5 - June 11, 2017
sad_dolphin00

I am not sure how to even respond to this. I do not know what drives you to hatefully twist my words, depicting my cry for help as some kind of contrived attempt at manipulation, but you are obviously not acting with anything close to an altruistic intent.

Yes, I am entirely serious about this. Far more than you know. Perhaps if you had contacted me to have an intelligent discussion, instead of directly proceeding to accuse me with many critical generalizations, you would have realized that.

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6Viliam
The mature way to handle suicidal people is to call professional help, as soon as possible. If the suicidal thinking is caused by some kind of hormonal imbalance -- which the person will report as "I have logically concluded that it is better for me to die", because that is how it feels from inside -- you cannot fix the hormonal imbalance by a clever argument; that would be magical thinking. Most likely, you will talk to the person until their hormonal spike passes, then the person will say "uhm, what you said makes a lot of sense, I already feel better, thanks!", and the next day you will find them hanging from the noose in their room, because another hormonal spike hit them later in the evening, and they "logically concluded" that life actually is meaningless and there is no hope and no reason to delay the inevitable, so they wouldn't even call you or wait until the morning, because that also would be pointless. (Been there, failed to do the right thing, lost a friend.) Sure, this seems like an unfalsifiable hypothesis "you believe it is not caused by hormones because that belief is caused by hormones". But that's exactly the reason to seek professional help instead of debating it; to measure your actual level of hormones, and if necessary, to fix it. Body and mind are connected more than most people admit. That's all from my side. If you are sincere, I wish you luck. Any meaningful help I could offer is exactly what you refuse, so I have nothing more to add.
4Lumifer
The more you write, the less sincere you sound.
Open thread, June 5 - June 11, 2017
sad_dolphin20

I am considering ending my life because of fears related to AI risk. I am posting here because I want other people to review my reasoning process and help ensure I make the right decision.

First, this is not an emergency situation. I do not currently intend to commit suicide, nor have I made any plan for doing so. No matter what I decide, I will wait several years to be sure of my preference. I am not at all an impulsive person, and I know that ASI is very unlikely to be invented in less than a few decades.

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0Mitchell_Porter
If ASI-provided immortal life were possible, you would already be living it. ... because if you're somewhere in an infinite sequence, you're more likely to be in the middle than at the beginning.
0MrMind
As an aside, against the most horrific version of UFAI, even suicide won't avoid dystopia. Heh.
Viliam160

WTF is this? Please take a step back, and look at what you did here.

Your literally first words on this website are about suicide. Then you say no suicide, and then you explain in detail how people are not supposed to talk about your possible suicide. Half of your total contribution on this website is about your suicide-not-suicide. Thanks; now everyone can understand they are not supposed to think about the pink elephant in the room. So... why have you mentioned it, in the first place? Three times in a row, using a bold font once, just to be sure. Seems li... (read more)

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