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Doesn't that prove too much? You can apply the same logic to, for example, using transport (each time you try to ride a train and it doesn't hurt you, your trust in "use transport is safe" increases, so you try to ride a motorcicle). Or to sport (each time you play ping-pong and it doesn't hurt you, your trust in "sport is safe" increases, so you try BASE jumping).

Just... when you decide what to try you should not use a mental category that includes both LSD and heroin. I don't think it's that hard.

-2Viliam
Well, yes, people feel safe doing things that didn't hurt them yet, and that is sometimes how they get hurt. It even makes sense from certain perspective: if the thing you randomly chose is better than average (evidence: you didn't get hurt yet), it is on average better to keep doing that, rather than to randomly choose something else. But that is a very low bar. You can get much better estimates if you look at your reference group. How many ping-pong players get hurt per year? Suppose you had 10 friends at school that liked to play ping-pong. Now that you try to contact them a few years later, you find out that 4 of them are dead, because the ping-pong ball crushed their brain, or something like that. It would probably scare me so much that I would stop... even if nothing bad happened to me yet. Even if I could make an excuse like "they probably held the racket wrong, that could never happen to me". Similarly, if I knew in person someone who died in a plane crash, especially multiple people at different crashed planes, I would probably stop using planes, even if one never crashed with me (which is the evidence I cannot get without also getting hurt). What is the right reference group for drug use? When people say "I read a research, and it showed...", they kinda imply that the participants in the research are their reference group. Which is nonsense in my opinion. Participants in a research are probably getting their drugs from a reliable source, carefully measured, probably have their health checked, and are not subsequently encouraged by the organizers to go try also something else. This is not what will happen to you, if you start experimenting with whatever seems safe after reading some research online. (By the way, are we going to "trust the Science" on safety of drugs? What happened to the usual skepticism and comments about replication crisis?) So who is your reference group? Rationalists who use drugs? Here, I find it important to openly push back aga

Anouther one; not that sure, but >50% and I think it's in the spirit of the thread:

Non-negligible (on average >25%, <75%) fraction of badness of rape is a consequence of the fact that the society considers rape especially bad.

3MSRayne
This is true for most sex-related crimes, I think.

Okay, I probably should elaborate.

About polyamory:

I use the definition of polyamory like Aella's:

The definition of ‘polyamorous’ that I find cleanest, for me, is not forbidding your partner from having extra-relationship intimacy.

(I didn't borrow the very concept from her, only neat definition)

If you fit this definition, but you just don't want intimacy with anyone besides your partner - I consider you poly. I think this polyamory should be the default option.

(Now that I've thought about it, a more succinct not-exactly-definition might be "fuck jealousy!".... (read more)

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Sounds like Aella. I remember reading her profile. Tapping the untapped market in a certain social circle. Not saying I've not seen similar patterns in the computer labs, but she sounds like she's a smart woman. Bravo
  • Polyamory is not just ethically-neutral, like homosexuality, but strictly ethically superior than monogamy.
  • Usage of psychedelics and some other drugs (primarily, MDMA) has pretty big positive expected long-term utility.
1MSRayne
Polyamory is ethically superior to enforced monogamy rooted in jealousy, not to voluntarily chosen monogamy as an expression of devotion in the presence of emotional maturity and the ability to choose compersion instead. As for the psychedelics one, I agree wholeheartedly.
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ooh those are spicy. I'm not sure I agree about ethical superiority of poly; I think it's perfectly reasonable for two people to reflectively consider how many emotional bonds their brain would be best shaped by, and then seek to have that many. But I also think a lot of people lie to themselves about it due to feeling that poly is morally unacceptable, or due to not filtering their partners on it and ending up wanting to have an open (intermittently more than two) or poly (durably more than two) relationship in a context where they've claimed they want to have and agreed to only have the pair. re psychedelics, I agree that it can be used well, but I'd caution that they are not a generally safe toy. While they're safer than is generally accepted right now in many ways, MDMA in particular is able to be quite chemically injurious, and can be habit forming or cause depression if one doesn't know the limits and safety practices going in. many psychedelics can degrade agency, causing the person to have less opportunity through their lifespan to experience the awe, fun, beauty, or learning of psychedelics because of the learning it induces causing their skills to degrade; this is hardly the only possible outcome, and those who report that the good experience helped their life are probably often correct, but it's easy for the constant surprising beauty feeling to be confused for constant true insight. Babble needs to be paired with prune or some of the apparent beauty will turn out to have been misunderstanding. Also, it's very important to remember that all illegal drugs are potentially quite deadly, and side effects should be considered carefully.