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An overview of the points system
Zoltan Foris20

Let me explain this suggestion of mine: "So I would rather make sure that the bottom half of criticism gets an increasing potential for negative karma impact, by applying a weight on the upvote points starting from 1 for the median criticism, and progressing towards 0 for the worst criticism. (goodness can be measured as unweighted votes divided by number of votes.)"

I explain on an example. There are 800 criticisms arrived in Januar 2024, in total. all have their upvote/downvote based points (let us say as of 15 Feb), let me call these "raw points".  ... (read more)

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An overview of the points system
Zoltan Foris31

Hi. As I understand the point system has two main outcomes: changes in Plan points, and changes in user karma. (Criticism points are a means to both.) 

Let me adress the proposed changes in user karma based on criticism up/downvote. The original suggestion is that "downvote points will lower the criticizers karma by N point, an xN number of upvote points will raise the criticizer's karma". In this case most criticism will end up increasing the user's karma, some more, some less, but the balance will be almost always towards upvote, becaus people are fr... (read more)

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Thank you very much for this.  I agree, it does seem like this way, people will end up getting a bunch of karma even for bad criticisms. Which would defeat the whole point of the points system. I'm not sure I fully understand "So I would rather make sure that the bottom half of criticism gets an increasing potential for negative karma impact, by applying a weight on the upvote points starting from 1 for the median criticism, and progressing towards 0 for the worst criticism. (goodness can be measured as unweighted votes divided by number of votes.)" I think there's a lot of merit in affecting karma points just for the action of criticism and voting. Perhaps 1 karma for every criticism that has net positive votes? And perhaps 1 karma for the first 5 votes, 25 votes, 125 votes etc?  "For users in high karma range I would engourage to do much criticising and especially voting. For this reason I would apply a constant monthly karma reduction on them which can only be undone by sufficient karma collected through criticising and voting." This is really interesting - we've been talking about ideas such as -perhaps after some time karma dissolves or turns into a different form of karma that doesn't give weight - or create ways to spend karma(perhaps to give a criticism a stronger upvote/downvote?)