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3 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 September 2010 10:04AM

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Comment author: Aleksei_Riikonen 18 September 2010 01:29:42AM 7 points [-]

It's not necessarily in Eliezer's interest to make the job ad as useful to those who don't know him as those who do.

If only Eliezer's friends apply, great, that means someone more likely to also be a supporter/funder of SIAI ends up getting this well-paying job.

(I for one have never met Eliezer in person, but I've observed him and his associates over the net for about 10 years now, which allows me to read quite a lot between the lines of this job ad.)

I'll also explicitly note that I don't consider it to be unfair of EY that only some readers get the full benefit of this job ad. It's a free extra service, throwing this info out here; he's under no obligation to spend more time making the use of this information easier.

Comment author: bbarth 18 September 2010 04:48:08AM 0 points [-]

That's awfully parochial of you. Also, that puts me firmly in the "this shouldn't have been promoted camp."

If the rationality community is going to grow, it would behoove it to be more open not less. It's a bit surprising that you would advocate for insular and incestuous hiring practices given the hurdles that this community has to overcome if it wants attract more members.

Comment author: Aleksei_Riikonen 18 September 2010 05:25:51AM 1 point [-]

This isn't a matter of being non-open (except on the part of the employer, which is their valid choice). It's just a matter of not putting in the effort to make it obvious at the very first glance to newcomers whether the job ad is trustworthy or not.

To be honest, I don't consider it a particularly demanding task even for newcomers to determine that they won't exceptionally probably be screwed if they send their info. But if you're worried about it, no-one is stopping you from sending an anonymised application, saying that you'd give your more personal details if the potential employer first communicates more about itself to you.

Comment author: mranissimov 20 September 2010 09:09:52PM 2 points [-]

God, the people here go on and on about such a trivial issue! Sorry if I offend anyone, but really. Petty microanalysis of the type seen nowhere else on the Internet. If you don't like the ad, don't apply. If you don't want to promote it, don't. Is it really worth having a debate about whether it is worth promoting?

Comment author: mattnewport 20 September 2010 09:13:12PM 2 points [-]

Petty microanalysis of the type seen nowhere else on the Internet.

Your Internet sounds like a nice place to visit, nothing like the one in our world.

Comment author: whpearson 20 September 2010 09:34:21PM *  1 point [-]

If you don't want to promote it, don't

A brief note on terminology: When people complain about it being "promoted", they mean moved to the front page. Only some mods (or just Eliezer?) has that power. We have no choice whether it is "promoted" or not in this sense.

I'm not fussed myself.