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This is one of the only lesswrong posts I've ever read where I basically agree with nothing you wrote. You really should read the "rationality bible" though. Definitely before you keep posting here.

This sounds a lot like the objections CDT people were giving to Newcombs problem.

4kilobug
1. Sentient is not a binary thing, but a more fuzzy ones. The sentience of apes or newborn for example is hard to quantify in a binary way. 2. Many magical creatures have a higher level of sentience than mere animals. Some are fully sentient like centaurs or acromentulas, some are half sentient like phoenix. Even magical owls or cats tend to be more sentient than their mundane counter-parts. So it really seems from 1. and 2. that the level of sentience of unicorns has to be carefully evaluated, to be able to figure out if the harm done to them would be worth a "temporary cursed" life, it depends of the values of the three parameters : how sentient they are, how "temporary" it is and how "cursed" it is.

There aren't any clues that unicorns are sentient, so there's no reason why Harry should find QM killing a unicorn more thought provoking than eating pork.

Painfully murdering nonsentients to preserve one's own life is considered fine in almost all human cultures. In fact, painfully killing animals for fun is considered acceptable by most people, so long as the killing is done in a non-sadistic manner.

0Velorien
Unless you have hard data to back that up, I will accept "many people" but not "most". In the US, for example, less than 5% of people hunt.

iirc, that spell wasn't homing, it just turned to the side at the end.

0Velorien
But the side it turned to was the side necessary to hit its original target. Given that spells have some sort of natural AI (like the enchantment on Harry's pouch), and that basic wanded magic is just a matter of triggering a pre-defined effect by saying an incantation while moving in the right way, it seems more likely that the spell was intelligent enough to change direction to hit its target than that Harry pre-programmed it with that specific directional change during casting.

In GoF they had to set up an apparition-is-allowed-zone at the end of the maze in order for the portkey to work, which is why Crouch had to wait until Harry had won the cup instead of just turning a piece of silverware into a portkey or something.

5ArisKatsaris
Problem is that in the book Crouch says: Doesn't say "added an extra Portkey location" or anything such. That would have been the perfect place for JKR to say so.
3ygert
This is definitely not canon. I think it's pure fanon, but it may be Word of God, I don't know. In any case, this makes the argument from this point a fair amount weaker.

I used to think like this, but recently I've updated into seeing everything as potential foreshadowing.

I have no idea how I managed to miss that.

Prediction: Harry will have to make an unbreakable vow not to use the elixir of life himself in order to get the Philosopher's stone from the Mirror or Erisid

0Gurkenglas
Knowing Harry, an ordinary vow will suffice. Or he gets Dumbledore to retrieve it.

I concede, my original post was poorly thought out and sort of meaningless.

If you make your opinion more prominent by expressing it in a post instead of an upvote, you encourage others to do the same, thus lesswrong has more non-content posts and nothing much is accomplished by anyone. Since so far this thread has two posts of the type I describe, I guess the score is 1-1.

-2Richard_Kennaway
Only in the language of political correctness. In the real world, encouraging others to do the same looks like this: "Hey everyone, post your opinion!" This "score" is in your own head. Anyone can keep "score" by whatever rules they like. It is of no importance.

Be aware you're playing a zero-sum game at best here.

-2Richard_Kennaway
I fail to see how. I had an opinion about the thread, and in addition, an opinion about that opinion: that it was worth expressing. So I did. Others may disagree with either of those opinions (for example you), but they do not choose my actions. I do. What is the score in this hypothetical game? (It isn't the karma rating of Multiheaded's post.)

What sort of professional do you see if you want to do some minor self-help thing like improve social skills?

2A1987dM
We're talking about social anxiety, not social skills; they are anticorrelated but one is not the same thing as the lack of the other. Someone might have no particular reluctance in interacting with others but still be unfun to be around (low social anxiety, low social skills), and someone else might instinctively flinch from social interactions but if they somehow overcome that (e.g. by drinking alcohol, or by the interaction being initiated by the other person, or by being already friends with them) their company is very enjoyable (high social anxiety, high social skills).
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5ChristianKl
Plus points if you can cite peer reviewed studies that indicate that said professional is effective at increasing people social skills.

I mildly disapprove of posts with no purpose other than to state the posters unqualified opinion. Public yea/nea voting is imo not needed or desirable, especially on a forum with a karma system.

Richard Kennaway's post below yours is just as bad for exactly the same reason, of course.

I find it interesting that you think there is no reason to believe that a financial incentive would change your behavior.

0A1987dM
Elsewhere he sounds like he tried some other kind of negative incentives and it didn't work.

He didn't actually mention the Flynn effect in the above post.

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3mwengler
OK you've got me freaked out. I'm staring at army1987's comment that I replied to and it says "...contraceptives, the Flynn effect, etc." What am I missing?

Last I checked it was something like 10.

The username contains more than 13 bits of information (being 14 characters long) so this might not be too unreasonable.

I think It's a bad thing to the extent that it could lead to opinions propagating without debate.

In the wider world, even things like atheism are "extremely controversial," but I don't think we need to make dramatic shows of uncertainty and humility every time someone brings it up; most all of us here are atheists and we need to move on and discuss the more difficult questions. What I worry about is that a community norm of being vocal about our opinions but not discussing them rationally or even at all most of the time then we may wind up decid... (read more)

0Vaniver
I don't think the primary reason to not discuss atheism and theism at LW is because most readers of LW are atheists. What that implies to me is "if we all believe X, X is not worth discussing; if we are conflicted about Y, then Y is worth discussing." What I would say instead is "Z is worth discussing to the extent that discussing Z is productive." There are topics where it would be great if we all agreed, but discussing those topics predictably does not lead to more agreement. That is, I would view it not as we are interested in more difficult questions, but in easier discussions. The easier discussions are often on more sophisticated topics. For example, it's often easier to have an abstract discussion on what it means to believe something, and what it means to change your mind, than a concrete discussion on Lewis's trilemma.

One thing that bothers me about this community is that we all clearly have political views and regularly express them, but for some reason explicit discussion and debate is discouraged. The end result here is that lots of people casually assert extremely controversial opinions as fact and people are expected to approve via silence.

3John_Maxwell
So, is this something we want people to do? If not, maybe we should start calling it out? I suspect it's a bad thing myself.
tut100

... and people are expected to approve via silence.

That's what the downvote (and upvote) button is for. Reading == agreeing isn't a very good heuristic, and with the karma system you don't have to use it.

5Vladimir_Nesov
False. Silent disapproval and indifference look exactly the same.
3PrometheanFaun
The reason is an assumption that if we discuss those topics, rationality will leave the building. Since rationality is what we're here for, we must not discuss those topics. Maybe one day we'll be ready to discuss those topics, but I don't think we are at this point.
1Halfwitz
http://lesswrong.com/lw/g9l/course_recommendations_for_friendliness/#comments

This is assuming you're trying to do politics yourself instead of just deciding who to support.

Personally I'm just going with the policy of upvoting every negative Karma question.

Hmm.. looks like the evidence I cited wasn't as strong as I thought.

What I mostly mean to suggest is that having a soul does not necessarily make a thing morally significant.

For this to work a wizard would need to be able to choose what Animagus form to take.

3BT_Uytya
Huh, I was sure you are able to choose your Animagus form, but it appears I was mistaken. Apparently you become the animal that suits you best. Still, there is a potential for a creative Legilemency and False-Memory Charm casted on oneself in order to create an appropriate self-image. Assuming Bellatrix was an Animagus before meeting Voldemort, was her Animagus form changed when she was shattered into pieces and re-combined into someone else? Also, what if I Memory-Charm myself to believe that common characteristics of spiders are intelligence and courage? Will my Animagus form change depending on the beliefs of native population (e.g. if you are very cunning, you will be snake in Britain, fox in Russia and mongoose in Asia)? ETA: Can't stop thinking about it. Created a topic on Reddit since I feel like Reddit is more suitable for a this discussion: LW is serious and I prefer it to stay this way.

They would have had a different reaction in chapter 48 when Harry became a vegetarian after learning about parselmouth.

I believe that animals have brains, different from human brains mostly only in intelligence. and am not a vegetarian. Wizards probably think of muggles as having souls, and have been known in cannon to hunt them for sport. Slave masters definitely though of their slaves as having souls.

It would have been hinted in a way or another in the Prentending to be Wise arc, or otherwise in all the debate between Harry and other wizards about

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1kilobug
Sure, but you can understand vegetarian, and a fair deal of humans are vegetarian. There isn't the slightest evidence of any wizard being vegetarian. If wizards actually believed animals had souls, not just brain, there would be more, not less, vegetarian wizards than vegetarian muggles. Only a few wizards hunt muggle for the fun, the blood purist who actually believe that muggle don't have souls. That's not really obvious. The Valladolid controversy is a clear example of the issue being actually disputed. And then again, the Hermiones opposed slavery. The Hermiones in HPMOR aren't vegetarian.

What gave you the impression that AK didn't affect animals?

Doesn't QM go on for a while about how it allows a wizard to kill any threat other than a dementor?

0kilobug
As said in a later comment, Moody's explanation that AK directly strikes at souls.

Evidence would be the existence of Dementors, which are personifications of death and may or may not be semi-sentient.

I was actually under the impression that the Perverells lived before Merlin.

3Kindly
To be honest, I've just been getting this idea from things other people have said. But in canon (apparently according to the book Harry Potter Film Wizardry), Ignotus Peverell was born in 1214, and I've found no evidence that this is different in HPMoR. EDIT: Apparently it is different. Hogwarts, on the other hand, was founded over a thousand years ago according to the Harry Potter books, while in HPMoR it is repeatedly stated to be eight hundred years old.

If by "nice" you mean "a good book" then I agree.

I'm going to agree with this post. Maybe an option to make everything appear in a preferred font would be useful, if the programmers aren't busy with anything else.

To the extent that anthropic reasoning works at all, it doesn't seem like sentience should be needed.

To use an analogy, it seems to me that this non-sentient site is sort of using anthropic reasoning.

8fubarobfusco
So would a rock with the same inscription. Which is to say, it's not the non-sentient site, but the sentient author and reader, who are using reasoning of any sort.

I don't understand the question.

0Rukifellth
I didn't know if the marginal was due to marginal utility being technical.

Does anyone here think a Phoenix Wright style game could be useful as a medium for Rationalist fiction?

2RomeoStevens
Yes. Playing spot the fallacy with mainstream media stuff should be generalizable.

You could make an argument that it would still be right to take the offer, since me and frank will both die after a while anyway.

I expect I still probably wouldn't kill frank though, since: A: I'm not sure how to evaluate the utility of an infinite amount of time spent alone B: I would feel like shit afterwards C: Frank would prefer to live than die, and I would rather Frank live than die, therefore preference utilitarianism seems to be against the offer.

I would accept the offer even if I knew for sure that I would be the one to die, mostly because the alternative seems to be living in a nightmare world.

9Kindly
In fact, a book has already been written describing hell very similarly. But even in that book, there were three people. And cushions.

Maybe create a GLUP that always does exactly what Frank would've done, but isn't sentient?

That would be my answer if we were talking about, say, a billion cushions. With 3^^^3, most of them aren't even in your future light cone, so they might as well not even exist.

I was assuming the -elipson part just went without saying. Of course you're right.

Honestly so would I.

I would much rather have an indefinitely long Fun life than sit with frank in a white room for a few days until we both starve to death. I would be absolutely horrified if frank chose to reject the offer in my place, so I don't really consider this preference selfish.

4twanvl
What if the room was already fun and you already had an infinite supply of nice food?

The problem with your "white room" scenario is that one human can't actually have Large amounts of utility. The value of the 3^^^3th seat cushion is actually, truly zero.

1linkhyrule5
... I did mention this, you know. Which is why I proceeded to bring up Fun, which by definition always has a positive utility no matter how much of it you get.
6TrE
Or at least, the sum over the utilities of creations one to infinity converges.
1Benquo
I don't understand how that's a reply to my comment. By far the most likely explanation for this passage is the Quirrel is describing the ritual to summon a dementor, and Harry rediscovers the counterspell. So the hinted-at event has already happened.
1CAE_Jones
1-epsilon: Perhaps Harry winds up simulating this world and beaming the ideas for HPMoR to Eliezer to see how people react, or perhaps Eliezer is really Harry James Potter Evans Verres with polyjuice and lots of memory charms, or some other highly unlikely possibility that could make it less than 1. All of which is to say that the probability that Harry is living in a story is ~1, given the evidence available to us.

What I mean by "immortal soul" in this case is just the Source of Magic backing up the brain state of wizards when they die. If the soul were capable of cognitive function independently of the brain then of course you' and Xachariah would be right.

That's how the conversation goes if the Soul Evangelist is trying to convert non believer into a believer. All she has to do is point out the existence of ghosts, the veil in the departments of mysteries, or maybe the legends of the resurrection stone. Most people would take this as sufficient evidence.

In the proposed scenario, she is faced with the much more difficult task of converting a believer-in-belief.

Politics doesn't really have to be "better" than the other popular solutions, it just needs to provide better marginal utility to some people, under some circumstances.

0Rukifellth
Is marginal utility one term or two?

If you do finish the series, and manage to insightfuly and productively discuss the topics you outlined, Ill change my downvote to an upvote.

0CarlJ
Unfortunately, my Karma score went below 2 last night (the threshold to be able to post new articles). This might be due to a mistake I made when deciding what facts to discuss in my latest post - it was unnecessary to bring up my own views, I should have picked some random observations. But even if I hadn't posted that article, my score would still be too low, from all the negative reviews on this post. Or from the third post. In any case, I'll finish the posts on my blog.
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