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46 Post author: Yvain 12 June 2009 12:28PM

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Comment author: SilasBarta 12 June 2009 08:58:54PM 2 points [-]

Property rights are government regulation. There are no such inherent rights.

Not so fast. People certainly think they are grabbing different clusters of thingspace with these terms, and you'd have to show how they reduce.

Not that I see your claim as totally outrageous. Many property rights can be equivalently expressed as government regulation, and vice versa. I've certainly run into trouble on that issue in debating intellectual property with libertarians.

However, the supposed similarity does break down quickly: while property rights have a definite owner, there generally isn't someone I can go to in order to buy back my right to own a tank, no matter what precautions I agree to take.

Comment author: newerspeak 12 June 2009 11:50:20PM *  7 points [-]

However, the supposed similarity does break down quickly: while property rights have a definite owner, there generally isn't someone I can go to in order to buy back my right to own a tank, no matter what precautions I agree to take.

Actually, it's legal for private individuals to own tanks in the US, so long as the main gun has been decommissioned. You can get a Soviet T-72 starting at around 50k Euro. Know your rights, you sheeple!!!!111