pjeby comments on It's all in your head-land - Less Wrong

32 Post author: colinmarshall 22 July 2009 07:41PM

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Comment author: pjeby 23 July 2009 07:16:29PM 1 point [-]

To be fair, not all psychological statistics are bunk. It's just that it's incredibly slow the way it's done, and all you can get from any one experiment is a vague idea like, "thinking concretely about a task makes it more likely you'll do it." Direct marketers knew that ages ago.

Comment author: thomblake 23 July 2009 07:18:14PM *  1 point [-]

Direct marketers knew that ages ago.

For certain values of "knew".

Science has different epistemic standards.

ETA: though you're correct to point out that the papers mentioned above don't seem to follow them very well.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 24 July 2009 05:52:03AM 3 points [-]

For certain values of "knew".
Science has different epistemic standards.

The marketers knew it well enough that the scientists should have studied it. That they didn't was a serious epistemic failing; it's not clear that these different standards are better. Denying something on the grounds that you haven't studied it enough and refusing to study it is almost a fully general counterargument.

Comment author: pjeby 23 July 2009 07:26:37PM 2 points [-]

Of course. Unfortunately for people needing personal and practical applications, science isn't caught up and may never be, precisely because they're not looking for the same kinds of things. (They're looking for "true" rather than "useful".)