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Comment author: billswift 15 July 2009 07:13:48PM 1 point [-]

I hadn't seen that about depression before, but that many chronic diseases are caused by yet undiscovered infectious agents has been around for a while. There is a good, very readable survey of the idea "Plague Time" by Paul Ewald written in 2000 and 2002 (http://www.amazon.com/Plague-Time-Germ-Theory-Disease/dp/0385721846/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247684918&sr=8-1). The idea has been around for decades, but received a new boost when peptic ulcers were shown to be bacterial.

Comment author: Bo102010 17 July 2009 01:47:45AM *  3 points [-]

That peptic ulcers are most commonly caused by bacteria triggers an absolute denial macro in some people, I've noticed. I was fascinated when I learned that helicobacter pylor was found to be the primary cause of stomach ulcers, but it really seems to put some people off. I've had a conversation like this more than once:

"I'm so stressed at work I'm going to get an ulcer."

"Did you know that most stomach ulcers are actually caused by bacterial infection?"

"Stress causes ulcers."

"No, really; not too long ago a certain bacteria was shown to cause the majority of peptic ulcers."

"Well stress makes you more susceptible to the infection then."

"That could be, but I don't know how much evidence there is for that..."

"My grandfather had ulcers; they were caused by stress."

"I'm just saying the majority of stomach ulcers aren't..."

"But some are caused by stress."

"I think they're correlated, but maybe the people who have ulcers are more under more stress because their stomach is bleeding?"

"I don't think that's very likely."

sigh...

Comment author: [deleted] 01 March 2014 09:10:22AM *  0 points [-]

Huh. So apparently some people actually still believe that -- I had always taken “so stressed I'm going to get an ulcer” to be just a figure of speech.